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What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 6th, '23, 08:54
by uosdeepin
It is said that the mageia system is a derivative of the mandrive system. The purpose of mandrive is to make it easy for all users to use Linux. Is this the same purpose of the mageia system?

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 6th, '23, 15:01
by doktor5000
Hi there, you may want to check the "About us" page linked in the header at the top: https://www.mageia.org/about/

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 6th, '23, 15:24
by uosdeepin
Just a short sentence, easy to use tool, is it like Windows widely used system?

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 6th, '23, 15:46
by morgano
Some more bits:
Our distro aim to suit both desktop and server use.
We support several desktop environments, and they can be installed at the same time https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Desktop_environments.
We are one of a few systems that still also fully support 32 bit PC.

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 7th, '23, 02:58
by artenox
doktor5000 wrote:https://www.mageia.org/about/
secure, stable and sustainable operating system

That's true. And although it is not recommended to do so due to security reasons and almost no one does that, the advantage of Mageia is that you can disable the "updates" repository and forget about intrusive updates. Everything will be unchanged (stable), nothing will break during updates, you won't need to periodically update the package manager index, reboot the system after updates and the repository will work, the packages will be there when the distribution is released. After all, on Windows people sometimes turn off updates too.

This is not possible on all systems. It is not possible to disable updates on Debian, Rosa, ALT. It is possible in Ubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora. Also, the rpm repositories have a very logical structure, unlike deb.

But you will have to update the software you need yourself. By installing it from the developer's site or by compiling from the source code. But you can go to the hospital for two months, come back and your system will be in the same condition, waiting for you.

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 7th, '23, 07:47
by sturmvogel
Please don‘t follow such „advises“. It shows that there is a lack of basic understanding of computer and IT security. You NEED updates to have a secure and stable system. Disabling updates will lead to an unsecure, easily hackable system where your data can be stolen and much more.
It is always advised to install the updates from the distribution and not from 3rd party sources without need.

It is sad that beginners spread the lie that updates and „stable“ can‘t coexist. This also shows a lack of understanding what „stable“ means…

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 7th, '23, 08:48
by morgano
It all comes down to context.
Updates risk breaking production.
I maintian some industrial systems that have been running for decades - no way i would alter any single bit (literally).
On the contrary, i make sure to keep backups of those ancient programs.
There is no security risk as there is not even a physically possible way to get any code or data (i.e virus) through the steel enclosures.

But a system that handles data from outside, especially internet, really should be kept updated.

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 8th, '23, 13:04
by artenox
morgano wrote:But a system that handles data from outside, especially internet, really should be kept updated

I agree that the server software needs to be updated.

More about goals. Mageia offers an alternative to commercial corporations. There are two package managers - urpmi and dnf. And graphical configuration tools like in openSUSE.

Re: What is the purpose of the community?

PostPosted: Apr 14th, '23, 06:51
by artenox
sturmvogel wrote:This also shows a lack of understanding what „stable“ means


You will appreciate consistency (stable) when you have vision problems. For example, to see if the change in font is caused by a software update or a change in vision. Although, old Linux is hard to maintain (compiling new software or finding compatible new versions), so Windows is better for people with vision problems. The software supports it much better. I mean for example Windows 7 released in 2011 and you can still easily find working software for it.

I don't even mention NVDA and commercial speech synthesis engines (some of them work in Wine).

sturmvogel wrote:It is sad that beginners spread the lie that updates and „stable“ can‘t coexist

In the context of Linux only in Ubuntu LTS. Even Red Hat is very active in changing major versions of packages, as far as I can see.
Although, Ubuntu is now spoiled by snap. But there are ppa and third-party repositories.
And Windows has also become rolling.