It would be more constructive to file bug reports.Fyr wrote:Escuse mua, but I'm gonna post my sadness..
https://bugs.mageia.org/
It would be more constructive to file bug reports.Fyr wrote:Escuse mua, but I'm gonna post my sadness..
Fyr wrote:Escuse mua, but I'm gonna post my sadness..
I'm really displeased that Russian language is missed by the developers in: 32-, 64-bit DVD and Dual-Arch distros at the download page. But there'are presented its dialects - Belorussian and Ukranian. Why? You have cut your Russian-speaking users from 400 mlns to 60 mlns.
Also the russian version of the site is translated partly, awry, there is no Mageia's russian forum.
If you have the most Mandriva's developers, why do Mandriva's russian pages update in time, there are the support, software mirrors and update?
P.S. I have decided not to install Mageia, because Mandriva is approved by Russian users, EduMandriva is widely used all over the CIS (~1/3 of the planet)
and Mageia is a fork of the fork of the fork and has the shady future.
Please explain why you make this assumption. I say the future is very bright and fruitful for Mageia. The only shady future I can see is me continuing to run Mandriva as my main system.Fyr wrote:and Mageia is a fork of the fork of the fork and has the shady future..
Fyr wrote:Escuse mua, but I'm gonna post my sadness..
I'm really displeased that Russian language is missed by the developers in: 32-, 64-bit DVD and Dual-Arch distros at the download page. But there'are presented its dialects - Belorussian and Ukranian. Why? You have cut your Russian-speaking users from 400 mlns to 60 mlns.
Also, Ukrainian and Belorussian are not dialects, you should know it.
Fyr wrote:In answer to all the posts above:
The Linux timeline. The Linux forks of forks don't live long. But, there are the lucky exceptions, for example, Ubuntu. Pay attention to the Mandrake branch, the authors hasn't included the Mageia distribution, in spite of its starting date - September, 2010.Also, Ukrainian and Belorussian are not dialects, you should know it.
Unfortunately, the demagogs don't need the truth, but the Belorussian and Ukranian idioms are the dialects of the russian language. I would write the proofs (starting from the works of Lomonosov (XVIII cent.) to the lection of Wasserman (XXI cent.)), but it would be out of the topic. Anyway, the developers have cut out the language, it means they have cut off the users.
Fyr wrote:But the impossibility of choosing the packets to install at the first stage of installation greaves me.
I could only choose how I would intend to use my computer - as a desktop or a server
Fyr wrote:Sorry, not sorting out the language problem, I have posted the messages here.
I have installed the Mageia distro. I was very glad to see that the OS found out all devices (Mandriva 2010.2 didn't).
But the impossibility of choosing the packets to install at the first stage of installation greaves me. Return it back!
[ I could only choose how I would intend to use my computer - as a desktop or a server =( ]
jkerr82508 wrote:Are you sure that you installed Mageia (and not a beta of Mandriva 2011)?
I first heard of Mageia through DistroWatch but only just noticed your first release thanks to an interesting article in The Inquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/rev ... geia-linux
It was the article that was the clincher for trying out the first release this early.
We caught up with Patricia Fraser, who is the communications team representative on the Mageia community council
As to how Mageia got started, Fraser said, "Our founders came from the Mandriva distribution, and our community followed them.
An ordinary Mageia user can have more say in the future of this distribution than anywhere else.
It seems that Mageia decided not to distribute proprietary software drivers on the installation media. Indeed, the Mageia DVD is more than 100MB smaller than the Mandriva 2010 DVD.
We can't understand why Mageia did this when the free ATI driver doesn't work. Perhaps it was out of a somewhat misguided zeal to support free software. If that was the case, then it should understand that this was a bad decision.
It will have the effect of turning off people who casually try Mageia, and they'll drop it when their video card doesn't work right first time. We've tried other Linux distributions that had this problem, and gave up on them at that point. If we weren't reviewing it, we might have given up on Mageia, too.
dubigrasu wrote:I first heard of Mageia through DistroWatch but only just noticed your first release thanks to an interesting article in The Inquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/rev ... geia-linux
It was the article that was the clincher for trying out the first release this early.
Just stumble upon this.
So:We caught up with Patricia Fraser, who is the communications team representative on the Mageia community council
Community council? This has something to do with the community of Mageia? Well, this is a good start for a community representative considering the fact that we never seen her around.
Or maybe is some other kind of Mageia comunity...
As to how Mageia got started, Fraser said, "Our founders came from the Mandriva distribution, and our community followed them.
Not quite true I'm afraid, Mandriva was already quasi deserted by its users (gone to other distros) and only parts of its remaining community followed. (Some returned to Mageia though, at least to throw a peek)
An ordinary Mageia user can have more say in the future of this distribution than anywhere else.
I seriously doubt that.
It seems that Mageia decided not to distribute proprietary software drivers on the installation media. Indeed, the Mageia DVD is more than 100MB smaller than the Mandriva 2010 DVD.
We can't understand why Mageia did this when the free ATI driver doesn't work. Perhaps it was out of a somewhat misguided zeal to support free software. If that was the case, then it should understand that this was a bad decision.
It will have the effect of turning off people who casually try Mageia, and they'll drop it when their video card doesn't work right first time. We've tried other Linux distributions that had this problem, and gave up on them at that point. If we weren't reviewing it, we might have given up on Mageia, too.
Here here.
I have not seen users quitting Mandriva in masses
Have you followed the discussions in the mailing lists, where numerous users participated and discussed with developpers and everybody else?
Perhaps it was out of a somewhat misguided zeal to support free software. If that was the case, then it should understand that this was a bad decision.
It will have the effect of turning off people who casually try Mageia, and they'll drop it when their video card doesn't work right first time.
Please read again: Patricia is NOT team leader of "Community relations", this is not written anywhere in the review. It is something you are making up. She is the "Representative of the Marketing & Communication team in the Community Council". If your read a line like "Mr. Brown is the President's advisor", do you read that as "Mr. Brown is the President"?dubigrasu wrote:Well, for someone having the words Community relations and communication in her title she is terribly absent and not communicating from/in this community, or just the title is very misleading anyway.
I have not seen users quitting Mandriva in masses
Sadly I seen, it started slowly after AW left, and is not just an impression.
About here here: OK, he is saying that:Perhaps it was out of a somewhat misguided zeal to support free software. If that was the case, then it should understand that this was a bad decision.
I can't really say that it was a bad decision, is just what free software is, period. I might not like the decision but in the end they (devs etc) know better I suppose. But (bad or good decision) it does/could lead to this:It will have the effect of turning off people who casually try Mageia, and they'll drop it when their video card doesn't work right first time.
Not forgetting that lack of wireless firmware that could keep the user from connecting to the Internet in some cases.
Russian is in, but indeed, while rewriting the page, we lost it; fixed (it's in Europa 2 Live CD's and it's in the DVD of course).Fyr wrote:I'm really displeased that Russian language is missed by the developers in: 32-, 64-bit DVD and Dual-Arch distros at the download page.
Also the russian version of the site is translated partly, awry, there is no Mageia's russian forum.
Do you have any figures to prove your point?
Mageia does NOT decide against delivering non-free / proprietary drivers.
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