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Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical users

Postby Mag » Jun 21st, '11, 21:21

Hi :) Improve the way encryption easy for novices and non-technical users so they can increase security and privacy of your hard drive, files, etc ... bye...
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby m123456 » Jun 21st, '11, 21:50

How about TrueCrypt?
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby Mag » Jun 21st, '11, 22:18

What do you think you can get better so that a technician can click to encrypt the disk during installation or after it with the system installed? ... maybe is there any software that makes these functions and may recommend to friends and family who live far away ...?

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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby doktor5000 » Jun 22nd, '11, 18:51

I don't understand the reason of your post. You already have the option to make partitions encrypted. In the installer,
or in diskdrake change to expert mode, and in the options there is a checkbox "Encrypted". Set this and be done.
You can't have a encrypted root partition, AFAICR, or at least then you need a seperated unencrypted /boot partition.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby Mag » Jun 22nd, '11, 19:31

thanks for the reply, even thought of something simpler for novice users and non technical users users who do not have to walk in advanced options and can have greater security. It was with good intentions ...
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby doktor5000 » Jun 22nd, '11, 20:20

Easier than clicking a checkbox?
Dunno if it's really in the advanced options in the installer, think it's always
there when you create a new partition, but i'm not sure.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby Mag » Jun 28th, '11, 22:13

I thought of something a person with a few clicks can be configured automatically partition with adequate space and / home encrypted automatically, fully automatic, without making any manual in the advanced options. If the option is and I have not seen, I have to look at my virtual box in Windows or on my distro ...
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby Mag » Jun 28th, '11, 22:16

m123456 wrote:How about TrueCrypt?


and to encrypt the disk and / or files easy to use and multiplatform any? and without multiplatform for Linux that is easy to use that you recommend?

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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby htgoebel » Sep 9th, '11, 20:58

I assist the OP: setting up encryption is to complicated and not consistent in the Installation procedure. And I'm no novice ;-)

* When selecting "use whole hard disk", there is no encryption option.
* When selecting "user defined partitioning" and then "create automatically", there is no way to set up encryption, even if using expert mode.

What I would like to see is

a) an option "encrypted system" even when "use whole disk" is selected.
b) an option "create encrypted system automatically" when "use whole disk" is selected.

This should set up an appropriate system where even the root partition is encrypted
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby gbvoris » Oct 10th, '11, 02:09

I see some people saying that TrueCrypt is not 'safe'. If this is true what can we use to encrypt on the fly? I keep foster children and some of them are pretty good snoops! In the past I used TrueCrypt with out problems; but I cannot figure out how to get it in mageia.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 10th, '11, 02:39

gbvoris wrote:I see some people saying that TrueCrypt is not 'safe'.

Do they also say why it shouldn't be safe?

If you want direct alternatives, http://www.freeotfe.org/ or http://www.diskcryptor.net/wiki/Main_Page/en could be it. Multiplatform and open source,
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby isadora » Oct 10th, '11, 13:36

gbvoris wrote:.................but I cannot figure out how to get it in mageia.

It can be downloaded from:
http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads

Got it installed here, and works just fine.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 10th, '11, 14:15

Recently read www.privacylover.com/encryption/analysi ... -honeypot/
May be worth considering when deciding if Truecrypt is safe ...
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby gbvoris » Oct 11th, '11, 03:41

When I run Truecrypt install, I am told that I must have a password for greg in the sudoer's group. When I look at groups I only have greg and guest. How do I join a group which I cann't find?
I tried making a group sudo and putting greg in it; but I'm told that greg already exists.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 11th, '11, 10:56

sudoers is no group, you just need to setup sudo so you can use it. Install sudo, and as root run visudo.
That's a special editor which you should use for editing the /etc/sudoers file.

You should add a line similar to this one, which needs to be adapted, of course:
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username localhost=/path/to/truecrypt


And please remove that group you created.
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby gbvoris » Oct 12th, '11, 01:45

How d I install sudo, I don't see it in add/ remove programs?
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby Ken-Bergen » Oct 12th, '11, 02:18

gbvoris wrote:How d I install sudo, I don't see it in add/ remove programs?
Are both drop down box's set to All?
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby zugunder » Oct 26th, '11, 19:46

doktor5000 wrote:sudoers is no group, you just need to setup sudo so you can use it. Install sudo, and as root run visudo.
That's a special editor which you should use for editing the /etc/sudoers file.
You should add a line similar to this one, which needs to be adapted, of course:
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username localhost=/path/to/truecrypt

Do you mean:
username localhost=/path to truecrypt?
Or should it be rather:
username localhost = (root) /path to truecrypt?

Is there any particular reason to use visudo instead of, say, root-mode Kruzader or anything similar?

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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby zugunder » Oct 26th, '11, 20:09

doktor5000 wrote:
gbvoris wrote:I see some people saying that TrueCrypt is not 'safe'.

Do they also say why it shouldn't be safe?

If you want direct alternatives, http://www.freeotfe.org/ or http://www.diskcryptor.net/wiki/Main_Page/en could be it. Multiplatform and open source,


I probably missed something, but both FreeOTFE (fully compatible with LUKS for Linux though) and Diskcryptor have only Win support...
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Re: Easy encryption mode for novices and non-technical user

Postby wobo » Oct 26th, '11, 20:25

zugunder wrote:I probably missed something, but both FreeOTFE (fully compatible with LUKS for Linux though) and Diskcryptor have only Win support...
You are right here. The diskcryptor FAQ says: "Other operation systems (like Linux, etc.) are currently not supported and no plans exist to add support.". The FreeOFTE only offers Windows software for installation. Both claim they can handle Linux volumes but obviously you need Windows to install/run the software.
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