Why don't use rosa theme?

[iamond]

In my opinion,Mageia is very good but a little ugly.Mandriva 2011 is so beautiful.The rosa linux distro is not so good to use.
I don't know why you don't use the same theme.Rosa linux can use it,why can't you?Why don't you?I really want to know about it.
And I'm still waiting for Mageia 2 to release.I'll use it and I want to make it look like Mandriva 2011.The icons,something else.
I know it's hard for you.But I think a lot of people will be pleased to see Mandriva's coming back.We like Mandriva so much.So we like Mageia.

[obgr_seneca]

That's a matter of taste. I personally think, it's ugly.
But you can't discuss taste.

And: we are not Mandriva, we are a seperate distribution, creating its own look and feel.
Of course, if any packager wants to add some of the rosa stuff, he/she is free to do so, if it doesn't collide with the general settings.
But it won't come before Mga3, after all, Mga2 is as good as ready.

Oliver

[wobo]

Well, this discussion has been at the beginning when Mageia was porting the system from Mandriva. I don't remember if anybody voted for importing the ROSA desktop at that time but I doubt it. In the meanwhile it has been established a kind of visual division between the 2 distributions. Those who like the ROSA desktop stayed with Mandriva 2011 and may even stroll over to ROSA 2012. Those who preferred the traditional Mandriva look and feel changed to Mageia (I know that this is a very simple picture).

But as Oliver wrote - if somebody is interested to do the necessary work and if integrating the style does not touch the current style and if such an integration will be offered as an optional "plugin" or "add-on" or whatever, why not? I think that it's sure money to bet that it will by no means become standard look for Mageia.

[doktor5000]

Actually, to give a short summary, the vast majority of feedback i've heard or read about Mageia on mailing lists, forums, IRC says it was good that we didn't choose to go with that look&feel of Rosa Desktop. But as open source is also about choice, why don't you contribute and join the packager team so that the next Mageia release has an option to choose the desktop look&feel?
Maybe have a look at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager or http://www.mageia.org/en/contribute/

[Germ]

That's a matter of taste. I personally think, it's ugly.

Oliver

Agreed. I think it would be OK to have rosa as an option, but I would never use it.

[iamond]

I've tried to install the rosa theme.See this http://www.mandriva-china.com/viewtopic ... 7aded1e5e4

[wobo]

Actually not using the ROSA desktop has become the most visual difference between Mageia and Mandriva Linux. Mageia's visual appearance shows the direction the desktop is taking: it keeps up the clear and straight distinction as a Linux desktop meant for work and usability instead of trying to be a mixture of a computer and a smartphone or playstation (except for using Gnome).

BTW: At Linuxtag exhibition in Berlin, Germany we presented Mageia 2 using the KDE desktop. The treasurer of the KDE project declared our implementation of KDE and the combination of KDE standard theme with Mageia's default as the nicest one he's ever seen. His verdict was based on the fact that Mageia did not change too much of the original KDE. Hopefully he will spread his opinion!

[doktor5000]

BTW: At Linuxtag exhibition in Berlin, Germany we presented Mageia 2 using the KDE desktop. The treasurer of the KDE project declared our implementation of KDE and the combination of KDE standard theme with Mageia's default as the nicest one he's ever seen. His verdict was based on the fact that Mageia did not change too much of the original KDE. Hopefully he will spread his opinion!

Actually i think that's a big honour and like an accolade

[yankee495]

A friend ask me for Linux. I got Mandriva 2011 for him. We didn't play with ROSA much but I didn't like it (might change my mind with more time). I really like Mageia, and it has its faults as does all distros. But it seems to me Mageia trying to go back to the Mandrake days without sacrificing or adding too much eye candy, but retaining the customization, stability, and functionality expected from an OS these days. Mageia has been highly stable for me. Compiz is not working right and I understand that to be related to KDE, but even with Conpiz freezing the desktop, the core & kernel has never crashed.

There will never be an OS that everyone thinks is perfect. In my opinion Win7 is the best Windows ever but what a mess with DRM etc. XP didn't have all that stuff. Windows 8 looks like it is going to be all over the map and rumor has it they are going to block alternative browsers for "Security Reasons". What? IE is secure? Do tell...the world!

I'm not against ROSA as an option and I thought in the beginning of Ubuntu & Kubantu, splitting up the distro like that would be the death of them. Mint is now #1 on distrowatch and since the release of Mageia 2 , Mageia is #2, so someone is doing something right.

I had not been following the Linux community very close when I seen Mageia moving up the list. I thought "They better be pretty good to get me to switch from Mandriva!". Well here I am and more interested than ever in the fate of this Distro!

I'm also a KDE man...I just like the layout of the task bar (panel), start button (launcher) and control panel (MCC).

Way back, before I knew about Linux at all...I had a wish...I wished I had an OS that was so flexible that I could make it look how ever I wanted and run anything I wanted. Linux is almost that. I say almost because not enough manufactures support it directly and I, for the past 10 years, do not buy products from companies that do not actively support it(try not to).

People use Windows because it works, for the most part and it is already installed when they buy their computer. They are not going to buy a new car and change the motor. You can do this with Linux.

The success of the Mac proves with financial backing a Unix type Desktop OS could rule the market. Apples hardware & inflated prices holds them back.

I'm not saying there should not be choice. On the contrary, and I love my choice of Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia! And I don't put down Gnome, or Suse, Redhat or any of the others. I even thought about taking Mint for a spin, but I found Mageia!

I'll stop here before I get a MS/Linux/Distro/Gnome/KDE flame war going. My point is choice and Linux provides that. I'm sure someone will take the ROSA stuff and package it for Mageia. I'm from the DOS days when a Unix system was astronomical in price...Oh how I wish I could've had access to it back in the 80's.

I'm even going to get into programming which I have not done since before my DOS days. I used BASIC and assembly and at the time had a young family and just couldn't afford the tools to learn C, Cobol, Fortran and the many other options.

Happy configuring!

[yankee495]

BTW: At Linuxtag exhibition in Berlin, Germany we presented Mageia 2 using the KDE desktop. The treasurer of the KDE project declared our implementation of KDE and the combination of KDE standard theme with Mageia's default as the nicest one he's ever seen. His verdict was based on the fact that Mageia did not change too much of the original KDE. Hopefully he will spread his opinion!

Actually i think that's a big honour and like an accolade

Forgot, AGREED! Well earned! I'm spreading it! I advised my friend who I recently installed 2011 for to switch to Mageia so I can help him along the way. I just can't say how pleased I am with Mageia!

And the support literally happens over night when possible! Awesome!

[doktor5000]

A friend ask me for Linux. I got Mandriva 2011 for him. We didn't play with ROSA much but I didn't like it (might change my mind with more time). I really like Mageia, and it has its faults as does all distros. But it seems to me Mageia trying to go back to the Mandrake days without sacrificing or adding too much eye candy, but retaining the customization, stability, and functionality expected from an OS these days. Mageia has been highly stable for me. Compiz is not working right and I understand that to be related to KDE, but even with Conpiz freezing the desktop, the core & kernel has never crashed.

FWIW, under KDE you shouldn't use Compiz, as the bundled desktop effects are much better integrated into KDE and they're more stable.
BTW, which graphics driver are you using?

[yankee495]

Ok Dok,

The pager will not do a (2x2 4 desktops in two rows) :: pattern when you set pager options and the launcher (classic) menus don't pop out to the side, they stall, and if you highlight text and right click there is no menu. Drive your mouse around a second and the "invisible" menu appears as you pass over them. It is a Toshiba laptop with ATI 4200 series I think. It has not been a big deal but it would be nice to be able to show it off. With Compiz the cube works and everything 'Looks" ok until you start using it.

There is a bug report at KDE about the pager not staying :: and reverting to .... on the panel.

Since AMD has older drivers posted I may change them.

Info you ask for.

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[john@localhost ~]$ grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    27.976]    X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[    27.976]    X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[    28.114] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[    28.114]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    28.116] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    29.410]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    29.473] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[    29.473] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.96.4
[    29.473] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.961                               
[    29.473] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Apr  5 2012 23:06:21
[    29.866] (II) AMD Video driver is running on a device belonging to a group targeted for this release
[    29.866] (II) AMD Video driver is signed
[    29.866] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    29.898]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    30.182]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    30.923] (==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: "fglrx_dri.so"
[    30.924] (II) fglrx(0): swlDriScreenInit for fglrx driver
[    30.924] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:1:5:0"
[    30.924] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver.
[    30.952] (II) fglrx(0): Initialized in-driver Xinerama extension
[    31.042] (II) fglrx(0): Disabling in-server RandR and enabling in-driver RandR 1.2.
[    32.987] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized OpenGL driver(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
[    33.207]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    33.207]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[    33.207] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    33.269] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Video Bus'
[    33.270] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    33.270] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    33.271] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[    33.272] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    33.272] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[    33.273] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'CNF9055'
[    33.274] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    33.274] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    33.274] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'
[    33.275]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    33.275]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[    33.275] (II) Using input driver 'synaptics' for 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
[    33.346] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Toshiba input device'
[john@localhost ~]$

[isadora]

To have a clear look at the forum, it is very much advised code-tagging command-output.

[doktor5000]

@yankee495: If you want to get that fixed, please open up a seperate thread for this one, or ask a moderator to split those posts into a new thread.
But i'm afraid i can't help yout with that, as i don't use pager, nor 3d desktop, and fglrx driver only at work.