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I recently upgraded from Mageia 4 to Mageia 5 using the LiveDVD KDE4 x86-64. Prior to the upgrade the sound worked perfectly but after the upgrade there is no sound. I am using MATE, KDE4 and Gnome. Help me get my sound on!!!

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[root@localhost bmoore]# ps aux | grep pulseaudio
bmoore    2552  0.0  0.1 544460 10540 ?        S<sl 20:46   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
root      5306  0.0  0.0 116052  2164 pts/0    S+   21:25   0:00 grep --color pulseaudio

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[root@localhost bmoore]# pactl stat
Currently in use: 1 blocks containing 63.9 KiB bytes total.
Allocated during whole lifetime: 359 blocks containing 3.0 MiB bytes total.
Sample cache size: 0 B
Server String: unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 29
Server Protocol Version: 29
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 7
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: bmoore
Host Name: localhost.localdomain
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 5.0.0-6.mga5
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo
Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Cookie: 52ad:766e

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[root@localhost bmoore]# ls -al /etc/X11/xinit.d/50pulseaudio
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 212 Feb  3  2015 /etc/X11/xinit.d/50pulseaudio*

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[root@localhost bmoore]# ls -al /etc/X11/xinit.d/50pulseaudio
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 212 Feb  3  2015 /etc/X11/xinit.d/50pulseaudio*
[root@localhost bmoore]# rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio | sort
lib64alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.28-6.mga5
lib64pulseaudio0-5.0-6.mga5
libalsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.28-6.mga5
libpulseaudio0-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-client-config-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-module-equalizer-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-module-gconf-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-module-x11-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-5.0-6.mga5
pulseaudio-utils-5.0-6.mga5
task-pulseaudio-2011.0-6.mga5

Please come on guys and girls, it's not that difficult keeping the whole thing readable.
Please use [CODE]-tags, where appropriate!!!!!!!

How did you upgrade using the LiveDVD? The live media are not meant for upgrades and that's not supported:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Rel ... m_Mageia_4

Let me restate that I installed Mageia 5 using the LiveKDE4 DVD. I then individually selected the rpm packages for MATE and Gnome.

So first please try with KDE. Login, and then right-click on kmix icon (volume control) in systray and select "select main channel" or whatever it's called in english.
Check that there the correct output (usually analog if you use the 3.5 mm lineout or headphone jack is selected, if not select it).
Then right-click again, and click on "audio setup" (which takes you to systemsettings => multimedia) and switch to the tab "setup of audio hardware"
and check that there also the correct device and profile is selected. In the bottom half there's also a sound test, with a test button for every speaker.

Do you hear sound when you click the buttons?
And what audio setup do you have? E.g. integrated laptop speaker, standalone 2.0 speakers attached to 3.5mm lineout jacket, ... ?

No luck using your instructions. My audio setup is two external speakers from audio out jack from computer. This exact setup worked perfectly using Mageia 4.

Please show the output of

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pacmd list-cards short
pacmd list-sinks

I turned my computer on today and viola I have sound! Go figure I did not do anything. I tried to run pacmd list-cards short but got a response "Daemon not responding."

I apparently misspoke I have no sound again.

I am including all the information in the hopes that some one can help me. Remember I am new to Linux and I am unfamiliar with the Linux commands.

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[root@localhost bmoore]# ps aux | grep pulseaudio
bmoore    3832  0.0  0.1 373096 10484 ?        S<sl 12:09   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
root      8317  0.0  0.0  12240  2256 pts/0    S+   12:55   0:00 grep --color pulseaudio

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[root@localhost bmoore]# pactl stat
Currently in use: 1 blocks containing 63.9 KiB bytes total.
Allocated during whole lifetime: 283 blocks containing 1.6 MiB bytes total.
Sample cache size: 0 B
Server String: unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 29
Server Protocol Version: 29
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 9
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: bmoore
Host Name: localhost.localdomain
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 5.0.0-6.mga5
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Default Source: alsa_input.usb-046d_HD_Webcam_C525_A96540F0-00-C525.analog-mono
Cookie: c21e:331b

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[root@localhost bmoore]# pactl list sink-inputs


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[root@localhost bmoore]# lspcidrake -v | grep -i audio
snd_hda_intel   : Intel Corporation|7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO_DEV] (vendor:8086 device:1e20 subv:1028 subd:0581) (rev: 04)
snd_usb_audio   : Logitech, Inc.|HD Webcam C525 [Audio|Control Device] (vendor:046d device:0826)

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[root@localhost bmoore]# /usr/sbin/lsmod | grep snd
snd_usb_audio         176958  2
snd_usbmidi_lib        30187  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi            30827  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq_device         14878  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     51974  1
snd_hda_codec_conexant    23109  1
snd_hda_codec_generic    68949  1 snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_intel          30520  3
snd_hda_controller     31044  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec         139458  5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep              17698  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm               115664  5 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer              29458  1 snd_pcm
snd                    87899  22 snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore              15052  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
usbcore               239242  12 uas,usblp,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,ums_realtek,usb_storage,snd_usbmidi_lib,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,xhci_hcd,xhci_pci

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[root@localhost bmoore]# /usr/sbin/fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm* /dev/dsp
Specified filename /dev/dsp does not exist.

Why not using [CODE]-tags?
See:
ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandriva/m ... e_tags.ogv

Please show the output of the following commands, but please run them as normal user and NOT as root

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systemctl --user status pulseaudio.socket pulseaudio.service
pulseaudio --check
pactl --stat
pactl list cards
pacmd list-sinks
getfacl /dev/snd/*


And please next time use code tags as explained in ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandriva/m ... e_tags.ogv as isadora mentioned already.

Here is the requested information. Sorry I forgot to code.

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[bmoore@localhost ~]$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio.socket pulseaudio.service● pulseaudio.socket - Sound System
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.socket; static)
   Active: active (running) since Thu 2015-08-13 18:11:42 EDT; 2h 35min ago
   Listen: /run/user/1000/pulse/native (Stream)

Aug 13 18:11:42 localhost.localdomain systemd[2426]: Starting Sound System.
Aug 13 18:11:42 localhost.localdomain systemd[2426]: Listening on Sound System.
Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output is incomplete or unavailable.

● pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; disabled)
   Active: active (running) since Thu 2015-08-13 18:11:55 EDT; 2h 35min ago
 Main PID: 2679 (pulseaudio)
   CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/pulseaudio.service
           ├─2679 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
           └─2694 /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper

Aug 13 18:11:55 localhost.localdomain systemd[2426]: Started Sound Service.
Aug 13 18:11:56 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] source.c: Defau....
Aug 13 18:11:57 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c...1
Aug 13 18:11:57 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable ...1
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[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pulseaudio --check
[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pactl --stat
pactl: unrecognized option '--stat'
[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pactl list cards
Card #0
   Name: alsa_card.usb-046d_HD_Webcam_C525_A96540F0-00-C525
   Driver: module-alsa-card.c
   Owner Module: 6
   Properties:
      alsa.card = "1"
      alsa.card_name = "HD Webcam C525"
      alsa.long_card_name = "HD Webcam C525 at usb-0000:00:14.0-1, high speed"
      alsa.driver_name = "snd_usb_audio"
      device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:14.0-usb-0:1:1.0"
      sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/sound/card1"
      udev.id = "usb-046d_HD_Webcam_C525_A96540F0-00-C525"
      device.bus = "usb"
      device.vendor.id = "046d"
      device.vendor.name = "Logitech, Inc."
      device.product.id = "0826"
      device.product.name = "HD Webcam C525"
      device.serial = "046d_HD_Webcam_C525_A96540F0"
      device.form_factor = "webcam"
      device.string = "1"
      device.description = "HD Webcam C525"
      module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
      device.icon_name = "camera-web-usb"
   Profiles:
      input:analog-mono: Analog Mono Input (sinks: 0, sources: 1, priority: 1, available: yes)
      off: Off (sinks: 0, sources: 0, priority: 0, available: yes)
   Active Profile: input:analog-mono
   Ports:
      analog-input-mic: Microphone (priority: 8700, latency offset: 0 usec)
         Properties:
            device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
         Part of profile(s): input:analog-mono

Card #1
   Name: alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0
   Driver: module-alsa-card.c
   Owner Module: 7
   Properties:
      alsa.card = "0"
      alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel PCH"
      alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7d10000 irq 30"
      alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
      device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
      sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
      device.bus = "pci"
      device.vendor.id = "8086"
      device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
      device.product.id = "1e20"
      device.product.name = "7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller"
      device.form_factor = "internal"
      device.string = "0"
      device.description = "Built-in Audio"
      module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
      device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
   Profiles:
      input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (sinks: 0, sources: 1, priority: 60, available: yes)
      output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (sinks: 1, sources: 0, priority: 6000, available: yes)
      output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (sinks: 1, sources: 1, priority: 6060, available: yes)
      output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (sinks: 1, sources: 0, priority: 5400, available: yes)
      output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output + Analog Stereo Input (sinks: 1, sources: 1, priority: 5460, available: yes)
      off: Off (sinks: 0, sources: 0, priority: 0, available: yes)
   Active Profile: output:analog-stereo
   Ports:
      analog-input-front-mic: Front Microphone (priority: 8500, latency offset: 0 usec, not available)
         Properties:
            device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
         Part of profile(s): input:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo, output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      analog-input-rear-mic: Rear Microphone (priority: 8200, latency offset: 0 usec, not available)
         Properties:
            device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
         Part of profile(s): input:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo, output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      analog-input-linein: Line In (priority: 8100, latency offset: 0 usec, not available)
         Part of profile(s): input:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo, output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      analog-output: Analog Output (priority: 9900, latency offset: 0 usec)
         Part of profile(s): output:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority: 9900, latency offset: 0 usec, available)
         Part of profile(s): output:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority: 9000, latency offset: 0 usec, not available)
         Properties:
            device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
         Part of profile(s): output:analog-stereo, output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
      hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority: 5900, latency offset: 0 usec, available)
         Properties:
            device.icon_name = "video-display"
            device.product.name = "DELL S2440L"
         Part of profile(s): output:hdmi-stereo, output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pacmd list-sinks
1 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
   name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
   driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
   flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
   state: SUSPENDED
   suspend cause: IDLE
   priority: 9959
   volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
           balance 0.00
   base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
   volume steps: 65537
   muted: no
   current latency: 0.00 ms
   max request: 0 KiB
   max rewind: 0 KiB
   monitor source: 1
   sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz
   channel map: front-left,front-right
                Stereo
   used by: 0
   linked by: 0
   configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1837.50 ms
   card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
   module: 7
   properties:
      alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
      device.api = "alsa"
      device.class = "sound"
      alsa.class = "generic"
      alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
      alsa.name = "CX20641 Analog"
      alsa.id = "CX20641 Analog"
      alsa.subdevice = "0"
      alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
      alsa.device = "0"
      alsa.card = "0"
      alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel PCH"
      alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7d10000 irq 30"
      alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
      device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
      sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
      device.bus = "pci"
      device.vendor.id = "8086"
      device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
      device.product.id = "1e20"
      device.product.name = "7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller"
      device.form_factor = "internal"
      device.string = "front:0"
      device.buffering.buffer_size = "352800"
      device.buffering.fragment_size = "176400"
      device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
      device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
      device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
      device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
      alsa.mixer_name = "Intel PantherPoint HDMI"
      alsa.components = "HDA:14f150a1,10280581,00100100 HDA:80862806,10280581,00100000"
      module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
      device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
   ports:
      analog-output: Analog Output (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
         properties:
            
      analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
         properties:
            
      analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
         properties:
            device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
   active port: <analog-output-lineout>
[bmoore@localhost ~]$ getfacl /dev/snd/*
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/snd/by-id
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

# file: dev/snd/by-path
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

# file: dev/snd/controlC0
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/controlC1
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/hwC0D2
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/hwC0D3
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/pcmC0D3p
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/seq
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

# file: dev/snd/timer
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:bmoore:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---



Looks all good so far.

anubis wrote:● pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; disabled)
Active: active (running) since Thu 2015-08-13 18:11:55 EDT; 2h 35min ago
Main PID: 2679 (pulseaudio)
CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/pulseaudio.service
├─2679 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
└─2694 /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper

Aug 13 18:11:55 localhost.localdomain systemd[2426]: Started Sound Service.
Aug 13 18:11:56 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] source.c: Defau....
Aug 13 18:11:57 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c...1
Aug 13 18:11:57 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[2679]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable ...1
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[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pactl --stat
pactl: unrecognized option '--stat'

Sorry, I forgot about the long lines in journal. Please try again (again as normal user) with

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systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service -a
pactl stat

As requested. Hope this helps.

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[bmoore@localhost ~]$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service -a
● pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; disabled)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2015-08-14 17:03:46 EDT; 4min 29s ago
 Main PID: 3100 (pulseaudio)
   CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/pulseaudio.service
           ├─3100 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
           └─3116 /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper

Aug 14 17:03:46 localhost.localdomain systemd[3022]: Started Sound Service.
Aug 14 17:03:47 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[3100]: W: [pulseaudio] source.c: Default and alternate sample rates are the same.
Aug 14 17:03:47 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[3100]: W: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
Aug 14 17:03:47 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[3100]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11

[bmoore@localhost ~]$ pactl stat
Currently in use: 1 blocks containing 63.9 KiB bytes total.
Allocated during whole lifetime: 322 blocks containing 4.0 MiB bytes total.
Sample cache size: 0 B
Server String: unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 29
Server Protocol Version: 29
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 8
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: bmoore
Host Name: localhost.localdomain
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 5.0.0-6.mga5
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Default Source: alsa_input.usb-046d_HD_Webcam_C525_A96540F0-00-C525.analog-mono
Cookie: 421b:ccb9


Looks all good so far.

When you have an application running that is playing sound, please run pavucontrol as normal user,
check the Playback and Output devices tabs, if you see a stream playing and if volume meter moves.

Under which device do you see that? Best make a screenshot of what it looks like. An example, with Chrome playing music:

Tried audio this afternoon and it works. I did not do anything it just works. Thank you for your assistance.

Oops perhaps I spoke to soon I have no sound in mate, kde4, lxqt, xfce, cinnamon, and gnome. In order to eliminate the sound card and speakers I checked the sound in Windows 8.1 and it worked. I have no idea what is going on here.

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So, only [CODE]-tagging for command output, thanks.

Please show the "Output devices" tab of your mixer, and also the output of the following command, run as your normal user:

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ls -al /run/user/$(id -u)/pulse

As requested here is the outputs. kmix never would load and I have included the information it displayed.

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[bmoore@localhost ~]$ /usr/bin/kmix
KGlobal::locale(): Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kbuildsycoca4 running...
QSystemTrayIcon::setVisible: No Icon set
QDBusConnection: name 'org.kde.kglobalaccel' had owner '' but we thought it was ':1.57'

[bmoore@localhost ~]$ ls -al /run/user/$(id -u)/pulse total 4
drwx------ 2 bmoore bmoore  80 Aug 26 13:41 ./
drwx------ 8 bmoore bmoore 160 Aug 26 14:21 ../
srw-r--r-- 1 bmoore bmoore   0 Aug 26 13:41 native=
-rw------- 1 bmoore bmoore   5 Aug 26 13:41 pid