I can not connect to any of the detected wifi networks

I can not connect to any of the detected wifi networks

Postby gilbertzo » Jan 3rd, '18, 19:32

Hello,
I upgrade to Mageia 6 from 5 version because of I problem I had connecting to WiFi that I still have. WiFi networks are detected but I can not connect to any of them, the system shows the message error in connection. Also some times i found the same UID replicated many times.
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Re: I can not connect to any of the detected wifi networks

Postby doktor5000 » Jan 3rd, '18, 21:01

What UID are you referring to?

Which desktop environment do you use currently? And please provide the output of the following commands:

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lspcidrake -v|grep -iE "wlan|wifi|wireless|net"
ps -ef|grep -v grep|grep -iE "net|wpa"


and, as root:
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ifconfig -a
rfkill list all
systemctl status network.service -al -n50
journalctl -ab | grep -iE "fw|firmware|iwl|wifi|wire|80211"
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Re: I can not connect to any of the detected wifi networks

Postby gilbertzo » Jan 8th, '18, 18:53

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[root@localhost ~]#     lspcidrake -v|grep -iE "wlan|wifi|wireless|net"
iwlwifi         : Intel Corporation|Wireless 7260 [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:8086 device:08b2 subv:8086 subd:c270) (rev: bb)
e1000e          : Intel Corporation|Ethernet Connection I217-V [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:8086 device:153b subv:17aa subd:501e) (rev: 05)
btusb           : Intel Corp.|Unknown [Wireless|Radio Frequency|Bluetooth] (vendor:8087 device:07dc)
[root@localhost ~]#     ps -ef|grep -v grep|grep -iE "net|wpa"
root        48     2  0 10:35 ?        00:00:00 [netns]
systemd+  1056     1  0 10:35 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd
root      3215  2871  0 10:36 tty2     00:00:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/net_applet
[root@localhost ~]#


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[root@localhost ~]#     lspcidrake -v|grep -iE "wlan|wifi|wireless|net"
iwlwifi         : Intel Corporation|Wireless 7260 [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:8086 device:08b2 subv:8086 subd:c270) (rev: bb)
e1000e          : Intel Corporation|Ethernet Connection I217-V [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:8086 device:153b subv:17aa subd:501e) (rev: 05)
btusb           : Intel Corp.|Unknown [Wireless|Radio Frequency|Bluetooth] (vendor:8087 device:07dc)
[root@localhost ~]#     ps -ef|grep -v grep|grep -iE "net|wpa"
root        48     2  0 10:35 ?        00:00:00 [netns]
systemd+  1056     1  0 10:35 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd
root      3215  2871  0 10:36 tty2     00:00:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/net_applet
[root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a
enp0s25: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
        inet 10.1.17.141  netmask 255.255.255.128  broadcast 10.1.17.255
        inet6 fe80::56ee:75ff:fe4c:9065  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
        ether 54:ee:75:4c:90:65  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
        RX packets 54595  bytes 40445434 (38.5 MiB)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 21031  bytes 2681757 (2.5 MiB)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
        device interrupt 20  memory 0xf2500000-f2520000 

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 65536
        inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
        inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10<host>
        loop  txqueuelen 1000  (Local Loopback)
        RX packets 262  bytes 21426 (20.9 KiB)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 262  bytes 21426 (20.9 KiB)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

wlp2s0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
        ether cc:3d:82:52:9e:e1  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
        RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

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[root@localhost ~]# rfkill list all
0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
   Soft blocked: no
   Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
   Soft blocked: no
   Hard blocked: no
2: hci0: Bluetooth
   Soft blocked: no
   Hard blocked: no
[root@localhost ~]# systemctl status network.service -al -n50
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2018-01-08 10:36:00 CST; 15min ago
     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 1078 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/network.service
           ├─1383 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i enp0s25
           └─1437 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i wlp2s0

Jan 08 10:35:57 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Configuring wireless regulatory domain  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using interface enp0s25/54:EE:75:4C:90:65 with driver <e1000e> (version: 3.2.6-k)
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface enp0s25:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface wlp2s0:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]:     SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Invalid argument.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1446: Invalid WEP key length 8 - this network block will be ignored
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: Invalid PSK ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: failed to parse psk ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1494: failed to parse network block.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using interface wlp2s0/CC:3D:82:52:9E:E1 with driver <iwlwifi> (version: 4.14.10-desktop-
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started LSB: Bring up/down networking.
Jan 08 10:36:02 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Link beat detected.
Jan 08 10:36:03 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action enp0s25 up'.
Jan 08 10:36:07 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Program executed successfully.
...skipping...
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2018-01-08 10:36:00 CST; 15min ago
     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 1078 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/network.service
           ├─1383 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i enp0s25
           └─1437 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i wlp2s0

Jan 08 10:35:57 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Configuring wireless regulatory domain  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using interface enp0s25/54:EE:75:4C:90:65 with driver <e1000e> (version: 3.2.6-k)
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface enp0s25:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface wlp2s0:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]:     SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Invalid argument.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1446: Invalid WEP key length 8 - this network block will be ignored
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: Invalid PSK ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: failed to parse psk ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1494: failed to parse network block.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using interface wlp2s0/CC:3D:82:52:9E:E1 with driver <iwlwifi> (version: 4.14.10-desktop-
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started LSB: Bring up/down networking.
Jan 08 10:36:02 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Link beat detected.
Jan 08 10:36:03 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action enp0s25 up'.
Jan 08 10:36:07 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Program executed successfully.
~
~
...skipping...
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2018-01-08 10:36:00 CST; 15min ago
     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 1078 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/network.service
           ├─1383 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i enp0s25
           └─1437 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i wlp2s0

Jan 08 10:35:57 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Configuring wireless regulatory domain  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using interface enp0s25/54:EE:75:4C:90:65 with driver <e1000e> (version: 3.2.6-k)
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface enp0s25:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface wlp2s0:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]:     SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Invalid argument.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1446: Invalid WEP key length 8 - this network block will be ignored
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: Invalid PSK ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: failed to parse psk ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1494: failed to parse network block.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using interface wlp2s0/CC:3D:82:52:9E:E1 with driver <iwlwifi> (version: 4.14.10-desktop-
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started LSB: Bring up/down networking.
Jan 08 10:36:02 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Link beat detected.
Jan 08 10:36:03 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action enp0s25 up'.
Jan 08 10:36:07 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Program executed successfully.
~
~
...skipping...
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2018-01-08 10:36:00 CST; 15min ago
     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 1078 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/network.service
           ├─1383 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i enp0s25
           └─1437 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i wlp2s0

Jan 08 10:35:57 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Configuring wireless regulatory domain  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using interface enp0s25/54:EE:75:4C:90:65 with driver <e1000e> (version: 3.2.6-k)
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface enp0s25:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface wlp2s0:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]:     SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Invalid argument.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1446: Invalid WEP key length 8 - this network block will be ignored
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: Invalid PSK ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: failed to parse psk ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1494: failed to parse network block.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using interface wlp2s0/CC:3D:82:52:9E:E1 with driver <iwlwifi> (version: 4.14.10-desktop-
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started LSB: Bring up/down networking.
Jan 08 10:36:02 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Link beat detected.
Jan 08 10:36:03 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action enp0s25 up'.
Jan 08 10:36:07 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Program executed successfully.
~
~
...skipping...
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2018-01-08 10:36:00 CST; 15min ago
     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 1078 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/network.service
           ├─1383 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i enp0s25
           └─1437 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i wlp2s0

Jan 08 10:35:57 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Configuring wireless regulatory domain  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using interface enp0s25/54:EE:75:4C:90:65 with driver <e1000e> (version: 3.2.6-k)
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:35:59 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface enp0s25:  [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Bringing up interface wlp2s0:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]:     SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Invalid argument.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1446: Invalid WEP key length 8 - this network block will be ignored
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: Invalid PSK ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1492: failed to parse psk ''.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Line 1494: failed to parse network block.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using interface wlp2s0/CC:3D:82:52:9E:E1 with driver <iwlwifi> (version: 4.14.10-desktop-
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Using detection mode: SIOCETHTOOL
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(wlp2s0)[1437]: Initialization complete, link beat not detected.
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain network[1078]: [  OK  ]
Jan 08 10:36:00 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started LSB: Bring up/down networking.
Jan 08 10:36:02 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Link beat detected.
Jan 08 10:36:03 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action enp0s25 up'.
Jan 08 10:36:07 localhost.localdomain ifplugd(enp0s25)[1383]: Program executed successfully.
~
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Re: I can not connect to any of the detected wifi networks

Postby wintpe » Jan 15th, '18, 11:36

I have a intel wireless 7260 rev bb

but it has a completely different pci code

its vendor 8086 device 08b1 subv 8086 subd 4070

its working 100% no problem.

the bluetooth device on the same card has a matching ID to yours.

once link beat is detected it should switch to DHCPDISCOVER, if it can communicate over the encrypted link, ie if the password is right.

looks similar to this thread from a little while back

viewtopic.php?t=10150&p=58914

regards peter
Redhat 6 Certified Engineer (RHCE)
Sometimes my posts will sound short, or snappy, however its realy not my intention to offend, so accept my apologies in advance.
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