connect together 2PC W+Linux

[laskachien]

Hello,and old novice for this Q and don t know if I minthe good forumExcuse my poor english I m french
I ve one PC with Win7 the second has 2 HD one has Mageia 2 the other drive has Opensuze123
The 2 pc are connected on the net via the provider box named Livebox and work well on.with RJ45Ethernet
The Win7 pc has SeamonkeyMozilla all in one bromser and mail box,the second PC has Firefox no mail box on the 2 linux OS
My problem is that I write and read mails on W7pc.But now it is not good,as I began to have much forum answers from linux forums.So I want these solutions
-first install on the 2 linux OS a mail box How?And what is it s name
-Solution to read and transfer mailbox messages from Win7 to the 2 OS Linux(I have only 1 mail adress who go direct to W7)
-is it possible to auto dispatch them win/linux?
It seems to me a little difficult to solve?Thanks

[Lebarhon]

Hello,

Don't you know this French Mageia forum ?
http://www.mageialinux-online.org/forum/index.php

With Thunderbird, (may be others but I don't know) it is easy to have the mail boxes on a shared folder and to manage one's mails from any OS that have Thunderbird installed.
When you install Thunderbird, just says in the field : "Paramètres serveur- stockage des messages - répertoire local" the path to your shared folder.

[laskachien]

Hello thanks
The french M forum is nuts you get not often an anwer,it s why I go to the US where I have quick and good answers.I did nt know that Thunderb.Had the possibility of dealing with other PC and OS I will try it
Thanks

[PGTips91]

Hi laskachien.

When you configure Thunderbird you can set up your email account(s) with IMAP access. This will leave all emails on the server so that they may be accessed from any computer. If you do this on all OSes then you can mix and match reading/composing emails on any OS and the others will be synchronised to the latest situation each time you boot into them.

If you use POP3 access with deletion on the server with any OS then that will break the synchronisation and you can end up with problems of incomplete information on the IMAP OSes.

If you have problems keeping all your emails on the server you can open a Gmail account and have your current email accounts forwarded via Gmail. That way you have almost unlimited storage.

If you have a lot of emails you may find it even easier to read them in your browser, via the Gmail web site. This gives you access to your emails from any computer at any time or more than one at the same time.

Paul

[laskachien]

Hi thanks for the solution of mails,I don t remeber what is POP3 I wil search on Google,it was a long time I install it!
But now the problem is how to ty toghetr the 2 PC,one with only W,the other with 2 HD Openzuze and Mageia(I boot on one via the bios)

[PGTips91]

Hi thanks for the solution of mails,I don t remeber what is POP3 I wil search on Google,it was a long time I install it!
But now the problem is how to ty toghetr the 2 PC,one with only W,the other with 2 HD Openzuze and Mageia(I boot on one via the bios)

POP3 is the 'normal' way of getting emails from the server. Once they are marked as downloaded they are deleted, either immediately or after a specified delay, say of 30 days.

Can you specify more fully what you want to do with tying the two computers together. Just about anything is possible in terms of shared folders and files, automatic synchronisation, etc.

If you want Windows to read files on the Linux installations, you will need to install the drivers for ext2,3,4 as required. Linux can read/write the NTFS file format using ntfs-3g. That overcomes most compatibility issues, the rest is just configurations.

Paul

[laskachien]

Hello
That s I have on my desk
-1 pc with w7
-anothe with 2 HD one wit Mageia one with Ozuze(change them via bios)no mailboxes
-an internet Box from provider the 2 PC are connected on the box(Livebox Orange)
-a mailbox in Seamonkey(mozilla)
What I want
-Read from Linux M or Ozuze the HD with Win7 and its partitions
-Read on W7 with linuxs my mail box in Seamonkey and write in
I think you have all now Thanks

[doktor5000]

OK, what I think you are wanting is to have file-sharing between each of these systems, one of which is Windows 7, using NTFS file system and the other is a dual-boot system running Linux, either Mageia 2 or Opensuze123, using a Linux file system. [You need to specify the Linux file system(s)]

However you will not want to share the OS files themselves, just some selected data folders and their contents. You set up this as a network shares in Windows and Linux connects to this using SAMBA. Some folders you might wish to keep synchronised and a very useful tool for doing that is the recently released BitTorrent Sync that will automatically update all changes over the network in the background.

That does not apply to your mailbox. Keeping your emails accessible on all systems and the mailboxes synchronised is better done via the IMAP system within the email client and the email server. This depends on keeping your emails on the server and all the other clients synchronised to the server. If you can't keep all your emails on the server because of a fixed limit on storage you can get around that by routing them via Gmail or other web-based email service.

You are going to have to do some reading and educate yourself about these systems so you can know how to achieve this but it is all very possible.

Paul

[laskachien]

Ho thanks that s a long and very interesting mail.Yes now I d to learn more about.
Yes you have well understand
-no it s only read somefiles or dir,
-the most important is I have my mailbox on W7 and some answers concerning Linux arrive on, so I want to be able to read them IN LINUX (W7=Seamonkey all in one pack Linuxes=Firefox,I d to install Thunderbird in them)

[PGTips91]

The simplest way to handle your emails would be to open an account with Gmail and use that for Linux communications. Read Gmail in your browser and leave all emails on the server.

As for sharing some files the easiest way to do that would be to install BitTorrent Sync and share at least one folder with that. Your other systems can then sync that folder and the latest version of any files in the folder will propagate to each other system. Using the torrent system in the background is very quick and efficient.

For a fuller system of file and print sharing you would need to install and configure SAMBA and once you start reading up on that you will see that it is a major step up.

I am not well enough to take you much further which is why I said that you need to read up on this. I'll monitor this thread for a little longer though and hope that you can progress towards your goal. There is nothing better than to have all your resources on the LAN available to use from wherever you happen to be working at the moment.

On your dual-boot system you should also set it up to have a shared data partition so you don't unnecessarily fragment your data between the two installed OSes. Make sure that your user ID number is the same on both systems or set up a group that all users belong to with read/write privileges.

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ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ whoami
ubuntu
ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ groups
ubuntu adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ id -u ubuntu
999
ubuntu@ubuntu:/$

Linux is designed as a multi-user system, so you need to learn how to manage this aspect. Each user has an alphabetic name that you log in with, but this is translated into a numerical ID and it is the latter that controls the permissions in the file system.

Then each user belongs to a number of groups that allow fine-grained permissions to be granted. And finally, anyone who falls outside of the creator [owner] and is not a member of a group with permitted access to the file gets only the access allowed to 'others' and may be none, read-only, read and execute or whatever is appropriate. Leaning about permissions is essential knowledge if you wish to administer a networked system to greatest advantage. There was an extremely good how-to on all this by Silverbear ... ah, located via the way-back machine Safe and Easy Data Storage Outside the /home

Paul

[laskachien]

what a serious answer not often I get such an interesting and SIMPLE solution.Yes I just think this morning "why do you not simply use Gmail"I m old 84 and no more a good sight,it goes now only on PC.Before my hobby was electronic and C++ that s finished "It was a good time when I was young F.Sinatra!"
Thanks for all I now had to learn as I learned tha Konsole is not bash !!!Linux is wonderfull to learn not for stable users!I d know the first linuxes awfull to install a simple graphic output(I think years 80)

[PGTips91]

what a serious answer not often I get such an interesting and SIMPLE solution.Yes I just think this morning "why do you not simply use Gmail"I m old 84 and no more a good sight,it goes now only on PC.Before my hobby was electronic and C++ that s finished "It was a good time when I was young F.Sinatra!"
Thanks for all I now had to learn as I learned tha Konsole is not bash !!!Linux is wonderfull to learn not for stable users!I d know the first linuxes awfull to install a simple graphic output(I think years 80)

You're welcome! Thank you for your words of appreciation, they are not all that common.

I'm a few years younger than you but have had a couple of major events that have limited me, and now I am losing some of my remaining faculties, like my short-term memory, and find things much more difficult than I used to. When I started using Linux about 15 years ago I thought that I might never be able to learn it. There is still the other 90% left to learn, but I have made some progress In the meantime. Yes, Linux on the Desktop has made huge progress - some regressions going on at the moment in the GUI, perhaps, but the engine under the hood is pretty well developed now.

One thing that I have found very helpful in gaining [tentative] mastery over my system has been the command line. There is an amazing amount of information embedded in those command line applications and this information is there at your fingertips whenever you need it, so I keep one tab in the konsole window open with the 'man file' and another for doing the work. These days you can select, copy and paste from one to the other, saving typing, errors and time. Also the up-arrow takes you back to the previous command which you can edit for corrections or a repetition with slightly different parameters. Familiarity with these tools enables doing lots of things quickly and easily and I find it just a lot of fun these days.

The other arm of my technique is simply doing a Google search on the text of some issue. Say, "How do I change the root password in Linux?" - select, right-click and choose 'Search Google for ...' and then if the answer is not in the first couple of hits, fine-tune the search until it is found. Most problems have been experienced by others and answers have been given many times over, in How-tos or forum threads, even archived email lists or the official web sites of software, its all there for the finding.

Of course, everybody has their own comfort-zone in terms of technical difficulty that they are prepared to tackle and some of this is a bridge too far for many, but I would encourage everybody to learn some of the few basics so that they are not ever lost in the bush without a compass, figuratively, when it comes to a Linux system.

Some commands to start with : --

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cd
# change the working directory to your 'Home' directory
cd Downloads
# change from 'Home' to the Downloads directory
cd 'Tab' 'Tab'
# lists all valid completions, meaning all sub-directories in the current directory.
# Note : hitting the 'Tab' key at any point will apply command completion up to the point where an ambiguity occurs at which point you have to supply the next key-stroke manually, etc, saving typing, errors and time.
ls
# list all contents of the working directory
man -k keyword
# list all occurrences of the keyword in the man files
man application
# show the man [manual] file for 'application'
application --help
# give basic help information about 'application'


Those are possibly the basics to get anyone started. At least, once you have had a play around in the command line interface and lost the fear of the unknown, you can then follow some command that someone suggests when offering help. [Not that I suggest you do too much of this but others reading might like to take note.]

And all of this I am forgetting faster than I can learn it these days!

Paul

[laskachien]

Yes we loose much time going old.I m sweeping out all my electronic and when I see what I was able to do it make me sad.All these things going away,I tried to sell them,but the youngs are no more interested about doing something with their ands.Our time is over.My first PC I build it in the years 80 with a6800Motorola,and all in assembler and basic.then I try C++.My great chance it s to have a girl 15 by me.She know more about Linux than me!!!Now the only thing I do is going on my PC because I do not more see well.Excuse my bad english friendly your Carl