House wrote:Mandriva had/has a long history of pointedly ignoring its user base. Did that tradition survive the fork?
Sadly, the answer seems to be "yes."
You are talking of a single case with a single person among a full community of contributing persons, a single time, a few days ago? That's not very considerate for all the rest that has happened already in 8 months, and of all that can still happen. That's the sad part really.
Conflict is part of the game, and even conflict between some people that have more power than others. We planned for that, we expect conflict (and this one is really of a lower level than what we got for the logo selection process if you ask me). The escalation process is here for that. Now, no one explicitely called to Council members for this very issue - and we already started to discuss privately the issue with some people to understand, calmly, the problem.
Now, why the need to, again, make an artificial separation between some "organization" and the people? Mageia is all about everyone participating in it. Not "some" versus "the others".
From where I sit, intervention by "the Council" is already long overdue.
Just because it doesn't happen now in public doesn't mean nothing is happening at all. We'll discuss this at next Monday meeting and see there.
Choosing an arbitrary autocrat
Ad hominem stances do not help so please stop it. Maat is no "arbitrary autocrat", he's among those who actually set up the forum and administer it, from code to other aspects. There is a forums team to manage the forums (still needs to be better set up, yes, but time will tell).
Now people may disagree with each other. That's part of life.
But leaving him in place as he repeatedly and vocally exhibits contempt for the community probably isn't recoverable.
Which is sad. Very sad.
You quick to jump to conclusions and to sack someone here, over what is certainly more a misperception from both sides. Too quick. That doesn't help at all. Cheer up a little bit please!
Case closed. Cool down. We'll see at the Council meeting.