isadora wrote:Can it be made possible to edit earlier posted messages?
Message i placed yesterday is not editable today.
maat wrote:(though some people i know may howl of outrage as tutorials must be written in wikis and not in forums in their opinions)
maat wrote:Now the time is enough to allow people to read back their posts and change a few things like typos or explain what they meant... but 3 days after there is no reason to allow on a common basis to edit the posts.
jkerr82508 wrote:An hour or two from now, when it's just possible that I may no longer be in "grumpy old man" mode, I won't be able to edit this post to make it less harsh.
jkerr82508 wrote:I've never seen any evidence of what you say could happen, but you've probably seen more forums than I.
ahmad wrote:I think a 2-3 hours limit isn't bad. (Just my 0.02€ worth).
maat wrote:Really few people complained compared to the number of registered people. And those complaining are also those admitting that they need to soften later their words... so that they have all comfort : using harsh words on the moment without having to moderate oneself and after soften the words so that they don't let too heavy footprints on the ground.
jkerr82508 wrote:Just what is the time allowed? I returned to a post that I had made, less than an hour earlier, to add some information, and found that I could not edit it.
I dont know how to translate french idiomatic sentence "le beurre, l'argent du beurre, le *** de la crémière et rester pote avec le crémier"
When i say i want people to carry the burden of their words i target exactly those behaviors.
And that's just what i want to avoid. People who know that they will not be able to soften their words later will moderate themselves, and if you call having to behave gently "going through loops" then i'm sorry to loose a potentially talented guy but for users having people barking at them when they have a problem and softening words 2 hours later to make evidence disappear will do a lot of harm to mageia community.
That is precisely what i don't want : here courtesy will have to be the absolute rule even in heated discussions
=> 2 hours later is far too relaxed in my opinion
maat wrote:There's been no insulting post (yet) at all on this forum (including mines and your last one on this topic ahmad)maat wrote:While jkerr could be (and i think he is) honest saying he just hopes to add valuable information later in his posts (though adding a new post could be enough) there are too many trolls out there waiting.
Yep, and such a rule will not stop them, they'll just create consecutive/useless posts and they'll even be justified "Hey, I couldn't edit my post to add some info".I understand perfectly your concerns (and i suspect also you're making yourself devil's advocate partially for the fun of it ;))
Absolutely not, I am not in the habit of wasting my and others time just to have fun...but if you've been on many forums you've found that their teams have to face the problems i target sometimes (more often than not) without success.
ahmad, if you've been on many forums, i also have a tiny experience as a forum user and a rather long one as a forum admin (i've been admin of boards far far bigger than mandriva's) instead of speculating in the opposite direction (without more evidence than your feelings and particular cases that you present as representative of general case) please juste try to trust me when i say that's effective
My feelings aren't a big factor here, and the evidence speaks for itself :)
There will be trolls no matter which way you want to put it, and such a measure will have no big effect. A troll editing his earlier posts is just as bad as a troll who creates 5 posts per topic and pulls the I-can't-edit-my-posts excuse, his posts will simply raise the noise-to-data ratio in the topic.
(Curiously, does MLO forums have a similar limit?).and just harass me when you need to update a post :)
That is called "restrictive", and you won't be online 24h. :)So that i'll see how much post-15-minutes-editions are frequent and needed for our forum users
ahmad wrote:Bear in mind that a correction could be to fix a typo in a command line, a user reading the topic will execute the command before realising that there's a "I made a typo up there, it should be blahbleh"...
maat wrote:For this moderators will always be available and willing to helpahmad wrote:Bear in mind that a correction could be to fix a typo in a command line, a user reading the topic will execute the command before realising that there's a "I made a typo up there, it should be blahbleh"...
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