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Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: Apr 30th, '13, 22:00
by bertaerts
I have Mageia 3 beta 4 x86_64 installed on an external USB harddisk.
I have all updates installed, so Mageia 3 RC x86_64 compatible.
After the last updates yesterday Amarok starts crashing at random times.
Sometimes within 5 seconds after starting to play a song.
Sometimes when switching to the next song and within 2 seconds of the next song.
Sometimes the progress bar and the complete user interface freezes.
???
I am very happy with my production system Mageia 2 86_64 where Amarok works perfectly.
Good that Mageia 3 final release is shifted to May 18th...

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 1st, '13, 07:08
by digigold
You may want to monitor Amarok's memory usage.

There is a version that corrects all the flaws in Amarok v2.x, I believe it's called Clementine... :mrgreen:

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 1st, '13, 13:54
by Mamarok
Please switch your Phonon-backend to vlc, the gstreamer one has serious problems with mp3 and ogg playback, due to two upstream gstreamer bugs in the 0.10.x series. You might have to install the vlc backend before and restart KDE to make sure the backend is used.

@digigold: this has nothing to do with memory usage at all.

FWIW: Amarok 2.7ยท0 is working perfectly fine with the phonon-backend-vlc

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 1st, '13, 18:56
by bertaerts
Thanks for the responses!
I started using Clementine, it works perfectly and I don't see features of Amarok that Clementine doesn't have :-)

Of course I tried out phonon-vlc-0.6.2-1.mga3 as backend.
But Amarok crashed with just the same behaviour. This time segmentation fault.
I rebooted my laptop after the backend change just to be sure.

So for now I use Clementine !

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 07:48
by digigold
Nice, I'll bet you end up sticking w/it. It is actually a port of Amarok 1.4 as many Amarok users such as my self did not like where Amarok was headed. It retains the good things I liked about Amarok while running smoother with a smaller memory footprint.

In all fairness to the Amarok devs, they do support like seven different frameworks. (Which seems like overkill to me.)

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 09:01
by Mamarok
digigold wrote:In all fairness to the Amarok devs, they do support like seven different frameworks. (Which seems like overkill to me.)

What are you talking about, what frameworks? Amarok just uses Phonon, and there currently are two maintained backends, the gstreamer and the vlc one.

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 09:30
by digigold
Mamarok wrote:Amarok just uses Phonon, and there currently are two maintained backends, the gstreamer and the vlc one.

I meant backends for Phonon, but I could be mistaken. I thought you could also choose xine, MPlayer, DirectShow, Quicktime, etc. for Phonon, or maybe I'm just confused, I haven't used Amarok in awhile.

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 09:40
by Mamarok
digigold wrote:I meant backends for Phonon, but I could be mistaken. I thought you could also choose xine, MPlayer, DirectShow, Quicktime, etc. for Phonon, or maybe I'm just confused, I haven't used Amarok in awhile.

Then you are indeed very badly informed, there are currently only 2 actively maintained backends, the xine backend support was dropped almost 3 years ago now, the others always only were stubs and there never was any backend for Quicktime or DirectShow.
And again, this is Phonon, the Amarok developers don't maintain it, that is work done by the KDE Multimedia guys :)
If you haven't used Amarok in a while I strongly suggest you give it a try again, 2.7.0 has chanced considerably to what you apparently have tried years ago. Just make sure to use the vlc backend, the gstreamer one currently has som issues with upstream bugs.
So at least next time you bash Amarok you really know what you are talking about :)

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 10:53
by digigold
Ok, so I was wrong about that point, but to be clear I don't hate Amarok. Seeing as how Clementine started as an Amarok port, that wouldn't make much sense. As I mentioned before Amarok was actually my audio player of choice until Clementine forked off. I'm guessing I would still prefer it to most audio apps out there, just not Clementine. My main beef with Amarok was that it is too heavy for an audio player. Have they reduced its footprint at all?

Re: Random crashes in Amarok

PostPosted: May 3rd, '13, 12:29
by Mamarok
digigold wrote: My main beef with Amarok was that it is too heavy for an audio player. Have they reduced its footprint at all?

That entirely depends on how you define a "footprint". How about just trying it yourself?