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Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 14:06
by gerard82
I'm new on this Forum.
I'm a Gentoo user since 2004.
I have a partition on which I try binary distros from time to time.
Seeing that Mageia was 2nd on DistroWatch list I d'led the DVD.
Install is easy w/o any problems.

The number of programs available is somewhat limited though.
Can't find gqview,Gimp-2.8.4 not available,only 2.8.2.
Then there's udev and optical drives:
It won't give any problems on laptops but I run a desktop with 2 DVD drives.
One is RW the other R.
When I wanted to install gutenprint-gimp I was asked to insert the Mageia DVD.
The read only drive opened but after closing it it opened again right away.
The udev rule only has "sr0" in it so "sr1" is unknown to udev.
This is definitely a bug but I'm to lazy to report it.

Apart from this I think Mageia is a nice distro,much better than Mandrake which I tried before settling on Gentoo.

Gerard.

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 15:58
by pete910
It defaults to DVD as that is the install media used, what's needed is to remove the "local media" and replace with the Mageia mirrors.

Open console

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su -


then

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urpmi.removemedia -a


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urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist


or you can do it via MCC, Make sure to enable the tainted and non-free repos .

think the command line is
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urpmi.update --no-ignore nonfree && urpmi.update --no-ignore tainted


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urpmi --auto-update --auto-select

Updates the system.

But I do it via MCC .

Then you will see all the packages available :D

HTH Pete

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 16:10
by pete910
They say a pic speaks a 1000 words ....


Image

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Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 16:43
by ghmitch
With Mageia, as soon as you complete the install it is always a good idea as Pete noted to remove the DVDs from the update sources in the control center and add an online mirror. That way you will have access to the full software library and that software, unlike what is not the DVDs will be up to date. It also avoids possible quirks with loading optical media, although that indeed sounds like a bug to me. - George

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 16:55
by gerard82
Well thanks Pete and George.
Mageia just had me do an upgrade of,among others,udev.
But the cdrom rules wasn't changed.
I also searched this site: http://mageia.madb.org/package/list/rel ... rch/gqview
No gqview or Gimp-2.8.4.

Since I'm not intending to switch from Gentoo to Mageia I'll leave it at this.
Nice distro for people coming from MS-Windows but I prefer to have more control like Gentoo gives me.

Gerard.

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 19:18
by ghmitch
Gerard, You will be hardpressed to find any distro that gives you the amount of control as Gentoo does due to its unique packaging format. Mageia is simply aiming at a different type of user. However ... if you make the kind of effort in maintaining Mageia as what you would typically put into Gentoo, you could likely come close. For example, Mageia 3 does not offer gqview, BUT Mageia 1 does. You can locate it quickly by using rpmfind.net. IF you ever want a package that is NOT supported by Mageia 3, you simply can go to rpmfind.net, enter the package name, and look for a package compatible with Mageia 3. For example, in the case of gqview, Mageia 1 supports the latest available version of gqview. I simply downloaded it, installed it, and it DOES install and work just fine on Mageia 3. As for the latest version of gimp, Mageia 3 does not have that YET, but SourceForge has it AND Fedora 18 has it as an update. I very much suspect that you could remove ALL of the Mageia gimp packages and then install either the SourceForge package or the Fedora package without a problem and have the latest version of gimp up and running now on Mageia 3. Do NOT attempt to use Mandriva packages as they have been using a different version of the rpm package manager and you likely would run into problems, but I have found Fedora and Red Hat rpms compatible with Mageia at this point. So whatever direction you decide to go with this, I wish you all the best and hope that you have a lot of fun in getting there because regardless of what distro you use, that is what it is all about! - George

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 22:28
by doktor5000
FWIW, gqview has been obsoleted by geeqie more than a year ago.
Check http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/obsolete/gqview/ an http://archives.mageia.org/zarb-ml/mage ... 12358.html

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 23:20
by ghmitch
doktor5000 wrote:FWIW, gqview has been obsoleted by geeqie more than a year ago.
Check http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/obsolete/gqview/ an http://archives.mageia.org/zarb-ml/mage ... 12358.html


Thank you Doktor, as usual you are on top of everything. I simply upgraded from gqview to geequie as a result of your advice. They both look the same to me. So Gerard has a choice. He can go with the old version. That DOES work. Or he can have the new version. I did NOTICE when I installed gqview from a rpmfind.net link that no new version of it for any distribution has been available since the Mageia 1 release. Its as if it is unmaintained. Again, thanks dok for the good information. - George

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 29th, '13, 23:49
by gerard82
Thanks for all the responses.
Looks like a nice bunch of very helpful people here.
I checked geeqie and last version is dated Sep 23 2012 while gqview is July 26 2012.
Reason I want it is the possibility of arranging files according to either date or size or alphabetically etc.
Gentoo still carries it and I don't know if the above is possible with geeqie.

Anyway like I said before I'm going to stick with Gentoo.
Sometimes people wanting to try Linux ask me which distro I'd recommend.
Next time I'll certainly tell them to try Mageia.
Gerard.

Re: Mageia3 RC

PostPosted: Apr 30th, '13, 00:21
by ghmitch
Actually the story according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeqie is:

GQView is regarded as the predecessor to Geeqie. It had been developed from 1998 to 2006 by John Ellis, the last release being in December 2006.[7] Efforts to contact Ellis since then proved unsuccessful, so a group of interested developers forked the GQView code, adopted the name Geeqie, and set about enhancing it.[8] In some Linux distributions (such as Debian[9] and its derivatives), the gqview package is now simply a shortcut to Geeqie.