Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

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Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 9th, '13, 13:06

I've just installed Mageia 3 beta 3.

In MCC->System->Manage System Services....

When I scroll it is painfully slow. Using page down is painfully slow too.

Is anyone else having the same trouble?

Is it bug reporting worthy?
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby oj » Mar 9th, '13, 16:27

try running systemctl in a root terminal and see if that's slow, or shows any errors. running it without switches like that generates a lot of output, it'll give you an idea if systemd is part of the problem.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 10th, '13, 05:59

OK, I ran systemctl and there appears to be no errors and it spat out everything very fast. It stops with ":", I assume it is waiting for a command but I didn't know what to do with it.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 10th, '13, 06:10

I just also ran mcc from the terminal, nothin interesting came out from there. What I did notice though is I opened up the process manager and every time I scrolled the system services X went straight up to 50% CPU usage.

On a side note I noticed some other process using 50% CPU, I discovered it was relate to nepomuk, so I quickly suspended the file indexing, think I'll be uninstalling that rubbish.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby oj » Mar 10th, '13, 15:26

Sounds like a video driver problem.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 11th, '13, 01:08

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Sounds like a video driver problem.


Oh really? It's a brand new (1 week old) video card (Gigabyte GF GT630 - NVidia) and Mageia told me it installed the proprietary drivers. Perhaps I should download the drivers directly from NVidia and try that, it worked that way on Mandriva.

I might note that Mageia keeps telling me that I have 18 orphaned (It's built up from a few) packages, one of which is the nvidia kernel. When I run urpme -- (can't remember the exact command right now, but the normal one) it asks me if I wish to remove them, I say yes, then it tells me they are required!
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 11th, '13, 21:24

How does the age of the card itself relate to a possible problem with the X/video driver setup? Huh?
And no, don't install the drivers directly from Nvidia. Please show the output of
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grep -ri driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log


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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 12th, '13, 00:24

Gees dude, sorry for making the mistake of stating the age of the video card. Sorry for confusing you so much because I accidentally included irrelevant information. I'm clearly quite stupid.

Well too late anyway, I installed the video driver from NVidia which killed the system, won't launch X now. I'm not completely sure what has happened but I ran out of time to dig deeper and get it running again. That will be a job for tonight and then I'll get back to letting you know what the driver is.

At one point X stopped responding last night that's why I ended up installing the driver from NVidia. I jumped to different session (Ctrl+alt+F4, not sure if it is called a session but anyway). I discovered that X was at 100%. Before returning to my computer I can say that it was an NVidia driver that was running and that was installed by Mageia because I saw the NVidia screen display as X launched.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 12th, '13, 11:55

OK, here is the output. I managed to uninstall the driver I downloaded and got X up and running again.
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[root@localhost lionelandjenni]# grep -ri driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    37.396]    X.Org Video Driver: 13.1
[    37.396]    X.Org XInput driver : 18.0
[    37.442] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[    37.443]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 13.1
[    37.549]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    37.572] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[    37.572] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  310.32  Mon Jan 14 14:42:46 PST 2013
[    37.572] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[    37.584] (EE) NVIDIA(0):     reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
[    38.295] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia
[    38.655]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    38.655]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 18.0
[    38.655] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    38.746] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    38.748] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse'
[    38.750] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.750] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'UVC Camera (046d:09a6)'
[    38.752] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Leadtek WinFast DTV Dongle Gold'
[    38.754] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.754] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.755] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.755] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.756] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.756] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.757] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    38.758] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'
[    38.759] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse'
[    38.761] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[root@localhost lionelandjenni]#
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 12th, '13, 20:37

According to the above log excerpt parts of the nvidia driver are still installed.
Well, i'm quite confused. What is the current status now? Best way to have a consistent system state and to make it reproducable:

1. Do a fresh install
2. Follow https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Setup_the_graphical_server
3. post the results here, and please don't fiddle on your own - if you do so, document what you're doing and post it here.
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Re: Scrolling Mageia Services and Demons is very slow

Postby lionelv » Mar 13th, '13, 00:18

OK. I've got a few bugs open at the moment so I might hold off on the re-install for a bit so I can continue to help with those. The description in the link to setting up the graphical server is what I did. Here's a recap of what I've done so far:

1. Install Mageia from the "Wired Network-based Installation CD"->"Same + nonfree firmware"->64bit
2. During install followed the wizard as stated in your link.
3. Installation complete and then I had the scrolling problems immediately.
4. You suggested that it is a driver issue so I first ran through the wizard again and the steps were as stated above. Didn't help.
5. Decided to try the drivers direct from NVidia (they worked on my old Mandriva 2010 install by the way, I'm dual booting for now).
6. X failed to boot, the errors provided were very confusing and I couldn't find much in the logs using journalctl.
7. Discovered I could tell the NVidia installer to uninstall, did this, Mageia would boot and X would start again.
8. Ran through the wizard again the same as the steps described in your link.
9. Ran "grep -ri driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and showed you the output.

The 3D support doesn't seem to be installed, or at least virtual box has been whinging at me about it.
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