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testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 16th, '12, 10:23
by djmarian
hi,

not many around this forum...
after testing mint cinnamon 14, mageia 2 started not working so well so i just tried mageia 3 alpha 3 from dual cd on a raid ssd+hdd

after noticing lilo instead of grub, first boot did something ...
i got something like repair... i typed exit and it worked fine
just installed my favorite soft and i'm going to reboot to see if i can get that repair thing again
did not try my sound card yet ...

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 16th, '12, 10:56
by djmarian
no repair thing this time, no sound (still)

some things i've see so far, not sure if they are bugs:
- cannot open file ro.uni (also in mageia 2)
- /bin/loadkeys/ failed with error code 1
- when hitting logout i don't have shutdown and reboot, suspend does nothing
- nautilus does not have icons for anything (back,search...), does not have the file, view... menu

some are maybe because i used my old home folder

also 1 q, what is the difference between lilo and grub?

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 12:50
by marja
djmarian wrote:also 1 q, what is the difference between lilo and grub?


LILO upstream has been dead, but Debian started to develop it again almost 2½ years ago http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/

DrakX doesn't support setting up a graphic menu for LILO, but for GRUB that works fine. There are undoubtedly more differences, though. Anyway, I'm surprised you got LILO without choosing it, that didn't happen in my Mageia3 pre-alpha3 install.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 15:43
by wilcal
I have a clean install here of 32-bit M3A3 using burined copy of:

Mageia-3-alpha3-i586-DVD.iso

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 16:46
by marja
wilcal wrote:I have a clean install here of 32-bit M3A3 using burined copy of:

Mageia-3-alpha3-i586-DVD.iso


Hi Wilcal,

Nice :)

Which bootloader do you have? Was that the default one, or did you choose it while installing?

djmarian's logout bug might be https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8073

Does everything work fine for you?

@ djmarian: Which DE do you use?

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 18:28
by wilcal
marja wrote:Which bootloader do you have? Was that the default one, or did you choose it while installing?

When I test things things I use a scratch drive and use

http://how-to-erase-hard-drive.com/

Killdisk to zero out the HD in total. I burned the DVD from the ISO and started
the install from there. The ultimate bootloader will be the default one that the
DVD disk creates. So it's a complete from the ground up install with nothing
on the HD to begin with.

I also consider the install complete when I get to the working KDE desktop.
Everything after that is application specific.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 18:37
by djmarian
yes i have seen that bug for logout, i use the power button more often anyway

i use LXDE, i find it to work best (also e17 is nice but i did not get used to it yet and i see it will no longer be supported)

from what i remember, i just clicked on the bootloader thing during installation to see if it detected mint, mageia 2 and i don't know if i have anything else
i did not change anything but maybe i don't remember well
should i check again?

also i see something about locale settings:

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urpme kdelibs4-handbooks
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LC_PAPER = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_ADDRESS = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_MONETARY = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_SOURCED = "1",
   LC_NUMERIC = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_TELEPHONE = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_MESSAGES = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_IDENTIFICATION = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_COLLATE = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_MEASUREMENT = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_TIME = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_NAME = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
removing kdelibs4-handbooks-4.9.2-1.mga3.noarch
removing package kdelibs4-handbooks-2:4.9.2-1.mga3.noarch

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 18th, '12, 21:03
by filip
djmarian wrote:also i see something about locale settings:

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urpme kdelibs4-handbooks
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LC_PAPER = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_ADDRESS = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_MONETARY = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_SOURCED = "1",
   LC_NUMERIC = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_TELEPHONE = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_MESSAGES = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_IDENTIFICATION = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_COLLATE = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_MEASUREMENT = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_TIME = "en_US.UTF-8",
   LC_NAME = "ro_RO.UTF-8",
   LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
removing kdelibs4-handbooks-4.9.2-1.mga3.noarch
removing package kdelibs4-handbooks-2:4.9.2-1.mga3.noarch


Did you use LiveCD KDE/GNOME, English-only? If yes, this is probably bug 3723. I seems that setting time zone mess up locale if those languages are not installed.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 19th, '12, 19:25
by djmarian
filip wrote:Did you use LiveCD KDE/GNOME, English-only? If yes, this is probably bug 3723. I seems that setting time zone mess up locale if those languages are not installed.


nope, dual arch on a sdhc

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 19th, '12, 20:09
by filip
djmarian wrote:
filip wrote:Did you use LiveCD KDE/GNOME, English-only? If yes, this is probably bug 3723. I seems that setting time zone mess up locale if those languages are not installed.

nope, dual arch on a sdhc

IIRC that one is English only too. So probably same limitation exists.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 20th, '12, 16:31
by djmarian
i got the repair thing again:
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mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
dracut Warning: Failed to mount -t auto -o ,ro /dev/root /sysroot
dracut Warning: *** an error occurred during the file system check.
dracut Warning: *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will try
dracut Warning: *** to mount the filesystem(s), when you leave the shell.

dracut Warning:

Dropping to debug shell

(Repair:/# _



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EDIT by filip: BBCode enabled for better readability of code snippet.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 20th, '12, 17:14
by filip
Workaround about locale bug 3723 is simple. Just install package locale-ro (I hope that is right name for your language).

For other issues I'm unable to help.

Now I have a question for you :D. Why do you disable BBCode in Options if you use it?

BTW, I'm also a translator. It's a long time ago since I saw you on i18n mailing list or IRC. Please keep in touch and come around sometime. There is still some work to do ;).

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 22nd, '12, 11:44
by djmarian
filip wrote:Workaround about locale bug 3723 is simple.

Not working here still got that little error and Romanian characters do not appear as they should.
filip wrote:Why do you disable BBCode in Options if you use it?

I did not notice.
filip wrote:BTW, I'm also a translator. It's a long time ago since I saw you on i18n mailing list or IRC. Please keep in touch and come around sometime. There is still some work to do ;).

I have been asking florin (our coordinator about stuff) so no need to add another message on the ml. I think we are many on the job an little to do.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 22nd, '12, 15:30
by filip
djmarian wrote:
filip wrote:Workaround about locale bug 3723 is simple.

Not working here still got that little error and Romanian characters do not appear as they should.
Strange. Are both locales and locale-ro installed? What is the output of "locale" in CLI?

djmarian wrote:I think we are many on the job an little to do.
I'm a bit confused as web page report says there it's still some work left in Romanian for web pages.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 23rd, '12, 11:51
by djmarian
filip wrote:Are both locales and locale-ro installed? What is the output of "locale" in CLI?

No package named locale-ro
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bash-4.2$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_NAME=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=ro_RO.UTF-8
LC_ALL=


i'll see about web pages.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 23rd, '12, 12:13
by filip
djmarian wrote:
filip wrote:Are both locales and locale-ro installed? What is the output of "locale" in CLI?

No package named locale-ro
You should add it. As you see from locale output it isn't consistent now. See app db for more info.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 23rd, '12, 12:26
by djmarian
filip wrote:You should add it.

When i urpmi locale-ro i get:
No package named locale-ro

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 23rd, '12, 12:45
by filip
djmarian wrote:
filip wrote:You should add it.

When i urpmi locale-ro i get:
No package named locale-ro

Sorry, my fault. It should be locales-ro.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 23rd, '12, 23:51
by djmarian
filip wrote:Sorry, my fault. It should be locales-ro.

in that case it's installed but no change

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 24th, '12, 10:15
by piotrekw1
System does not install cdrom in my PC (Linux piotrmag3a3 3.6.5-desktop-1.mga3 #1 SMP Wed Oct 31 19:27:04 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux) and the message (see attachment).
dmesg | tail
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tail
[   44.039490] ipt_CLUSTERIP: ClusterIP Version 0.8 loaded successfully
[   47.413987] xt_time: kernel timezone is +0100
[   47.926059] Bridge firewalling registered
[   48.434235] u32 classifier
[   48.434239]     Actions configured
[   48.607612] netfilter PSD loaded - (c) astaro AG
[   48.609878] IFWLOG: register target
[ 1473.291108] netlink: 33 bytes leftover after parsing attributes.
[ 1473.291113] netlink: 33 bytes leftover after parsing attributes.
[ 1473.291133] netlink: 33 bytes leftover after parsing attributes.

Re: testing a3

PostPosted: Nov 24th, '12, 14:20
by filip
djmarian wrote:
filip wrote:Sorry, my fault. It should be locales-ro.

in that case it's installed but no change

Strange. This is beyond my knowledge. Probably some nasty bug. You should probably report them.