[SOLVED],Mageia 2 RC - Sluggish with Desktop effects enabled

[cuz2000m]

Hi All,
I installed RC version of Mageia and was greeted with an extremely slow system. I realized that when I disabled the desktop effects, the system reacts normal to opening windows and starting applications. A "top" does not show high CPU or memory usage. I have an i5 quad-core and 8 Gigs of RAM in my system. If I change the desktop effects composition type from OpenGL to XRender it is much better but still a little sluggish.
I can provide further details on my system if needed. This wasn't a problem in Mageia 1. Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?

Thanks
Cuz.

[filip]

It happened to me to once in clean install of beta3 I think. I just disabled desktop effects as I don't care much. Functionality is much more important to me. But I would be glad if someone found the reason for that.

Mageia 2 it's subjectively more responsive on this otherwise not very powerful desktop (Dell Optiplex GX280).

[wilcal]

Mageia 2 it's subjectively more responsive on this otherwise not very powerful desktop (Dell Optiplex GX280).

Subjectively M2 is "more responsive" then M1. In my experience
that's true. But, IMO, that's more a result of the Linux Kernel being
more efficient ( not faster ). I'm going to be more interested in
the power consumption difference between M1 & M2 on my laptop.
M1 uses the 2.6.38 Kernel that has a known power consumption
issue. That issue has been solved and no longer an issue on
the Kernel used on M2 ( 3.3.6 ). I'll be making those measurements
after M2 gets released.

The Kernel performance improvements over the years are more
perceivable on lower performance platforms. I've quite a few friends
with old WinBlows XP laptops that I've switched over to Puppy Linux.
They're blown away with the performance much of which can be
attributed to the more efficient Linux Kernel and compact OS.
The system is magically not really faster.

[doktor5000]

@cuz2000m: What graphics card is used and which driver? Please provide the output of

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grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log

and the output of

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glxinfo | head -25

You may need to install glxinfo package for the latter ...

[cuz2000m]

Thanks for the response.
I use a GeForce 7200 GS Graphics card.

The output for

grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log

is

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[   159.417]    X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[   159.417]    X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[   159.454] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[   159.454]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[   159.497] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[   159.497]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   159.497]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[   159.497] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[   159.497] (II) NOUVEAU driver
[   159.497] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[   159.498] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[   159.683] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "1920x1200": 154.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 74.0 kHz, 59.9 Hz
[   159.684]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[   159.701] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: nouveau
[   159.701] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nouveau
[   159.706] (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps
[   159.706] (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
[   159.957]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[   159.957]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[   159.957] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[   159.978] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[   159.979] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.979] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.979] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.980] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.980] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.980] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.980] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.981] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.981] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[   159.982] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[   159.983] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.983] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech Logitech USB Headset'
[   159.984] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:1025'
[   159.985] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   159.985] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Eee PC WMI hotkeys'

And for

glxinfo | head -25

, The Output is

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name of display: localhost:10.0
display: localhost:10  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event,
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,
    GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
    GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
    GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
    GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX version: 1.4
GLX extensions:


Thanks again.

[doktor5000]

You're currently using the free nouveau driver. Fire up drakx11 and select your graphics card, say yes to the question if you want the proprietary driver to be installed and reboot. You may need to enable the nonfree repos for this. That should do it.

[cuz2000m]

Thanks for the input. I did that but am still receiving the problem when I re-enable the OpenGL setting. The kwin window manager also tells me that the following could not be activated.

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Box Switch
Desktop Cube
Dashboard
Desktop Grid
Dialog Parent
Fade
Highlight Window
Login
Logout
Minimize Animation
Outline
Present Windows
Screenshot
Slide
Sliding popups
Startup Feedback
Taskbar Thumbnails
Track Mouse
Translucency
Zoom

[doktor5000]

Please show the output of

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lspcidrake | grep -i vga

and again the output of

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grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log

and please also provide info which graphics card you're using.

[cuz2000m]

HI,

lspcidrake | grep -i vga produces

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Card:NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360: nVidia Corporation|G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] [DISPLAY_VGA] (rev: a1)

grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log produces

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[    19.658]    X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[    19.658]    X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[    19.787] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[    19.787]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    19.810] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[    19.810]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    19.810]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    19.810] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[    19.810] (II) NOUVEAU driver
[    19.810] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[    19.810] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[    20.000] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "1920x1200": 154.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 74.0 kHz, 59.9 Hz
[    20.001]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    20.022] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: nouveau
[    20.022] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nouveau
[    20.025] (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps
[    20.025] (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
[    20.269]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    20.269]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[    20.269] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    20.295] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    20.295] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.296] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.296] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.296] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.296] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.296] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.297] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.297] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.297] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[    20.298] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'
[    20.299] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.300] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech Logitech USB Headset'
[    20.300] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:1025'
[    20.301] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    20.301] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Eee PC WMI hotkeys'

I'm using a Geforce 7200GS video card.

[CharlieBros]

Both of them, install the Nvidia driver how Doktor5000 says. The error with opengl is general, I'm in arch-kde and have the same problem.
Charlie

[DShelbyD]

Graphics ssues here, too, with an ATI card, a Radeon HD 4650.

I chose the desktop cube for effects after installing the proprietary driver (on invitation). But the cube has never worked. Eventually, I discovered that desktops do not switch at all. That entire function is broken in my case.

Doktor, here are the items you requested above from cuz:

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grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    22.389]    X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[    22.389]    X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[    22.392] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[    22.393]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    22.423] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    22.606]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    22.608] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.96.4
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.961                               
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Apr  5 2012 23:06:21
[    22.664] (II) AMD Video driver is running on the exact device targeted for this release
[    22.664] (II) AMD Video driver is signed
[    22.664] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    22.667]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    22.737]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    23.851] (==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: "fglrx_dri.so"
[    23.851] (II) fglrx(0): swlDriScreenInit for fglrx driver
[    23.851] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[    23.852] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver.
[    23.874] (II) fglrx(0): Initialized in-driver Xinerama extension
[    23.883] (II) fglrx(0): Disabling in-server RandR and enabling in-driver RandR 1.2.
[    24.733] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized OpenGL driver(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
[    24.924]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    24.924]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[    24.924] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    25.012] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    25.014] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.015] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse'
[    25.017] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.017] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.018] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.019] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.019] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.020] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.020] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.021] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.021] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.022] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'

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lspcidrake | grep -i vga
Card:ATI Radeon HD 2000 to HD 6300 (radeon/fglrx): ATI Technologies Inc|RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] [DISPLAY_VGA]
[david@Athlon6000 ~]$ grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    22.389]    X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[    22.389]    X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[    22.392] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so
[    22.393]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    22.423] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    22.606]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    22.608] (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.96.4
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.961                               
[    22.608] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Apr  5 2012 23:06:21
[    22.664] (II) AMD Video driver is running on the exact device targeted for this release
[    22.664] (II) AMD Video driver is signed
[    22.664] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[    22.667]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    22.737]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[    23.851] (==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: "fglrx_dri.so"
[    23.851] (II) fglrx(0): swlDriScreenInit for fglrx driver
[    23.851] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[    23.852] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver.
[    23.874] (II) fglrx(0): Initialized in-driver Xinerama extension
[    23.883] (II) fglrx(0): Disabling in-server RandR and enabling in-driver RandR 1.2.
[    24.733] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized OpenGL driver(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
[    24.924]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    24.924]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[    24.924] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    25.012] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    25.014] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.015] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse'
[    25.017] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.017] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.018] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.019] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.019] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.020] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.020] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.021] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.021] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    25.022] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'

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grep -i vga
Card:ATI Radeon HD 2000 to HD 6300 (radeon/fglrx): ATI Technologies Inc|RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] [DISPLAY_VGA]

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glxinfo | head -25
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
    GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGI_swap_control,
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_AMD_gpu_association, GLX_ARB_create_context,
    GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_OML_swap_method,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX version: 1.4

[doktor5000]

@cuz200m: As you can see you're still using the nouveau driver, so no proper hardware accleration.

@DShelbyD: I'd prefer to have a seperate thread for that, as you're using another graphics driver, and it's quite disturbing to have two support threads in one mixed and mangled ...
And you don't even tell which desktop effects you're using whether it's Compiz or maybe those builtin to KDE.

[DShelbyD]

Happy to conform: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2466

[alf]

I noticed this behavior weeks ago(@doktor5000, you remember the thread about ROSA marathon in mandrivauser.de). I've installed cauldron on 3 different machines:
1) laptop with a GF 6100 (256MB shared VRAM)
2) desktop pc with a GF 6200 (512MB VRAM)
3) desktop pc with a GF 7300 (256MB VRAM)

with the Nvidia-driver 295.40 i couldn't use kwineffects with openGL on 1 and 2, whereas on 3 all were fine.
with Nvidia-driver 295.49 it runs flawlessly on 2 and 3. On 1 it's usable but with a heavy CPU load.

I think problem is prior related to unsufficient hardware.

[cuz2000m]

Hi doktor5000
Apparently it did not install the first time. I ran drakx11 again and reinstalled the proprietary drivers. The problem seems to be sorted.

Thanks for the help.
Cuz.

[isadora]

Thanks in advance cuz2000m!!!