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Apper software management

PostPosted: Oct 25th, '11, 15:07
by isadora
After having installed Fedora16 into a virtual machine it was my first-time-experience with the software-management-program of Apper.
Formerly known as KPackageKit, it now is renamed Apper.
But this is just the cosmetical side of the change. What makes Apper really interesting can be read in the makers' blog at:
http://dantti.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/ ... ed-part-i/

And how surprised i was, after updating my Cauldron-environment, i found back the Apper-icon down in my System tray.
Will surely use it for updating/(un-)installing from now on.
Thanks Mageia, a nice step forward.

Edit: a follow-up of the article can be found at:
http://dantti.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/ ... lications/

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 4th, '11, 20:10
by Sfiet_Konstantin
Did it works well for you ?
My previous try was aweful : packagekit was taking 100% CPU etc ...

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 21:37
by isadora
Have not seen this kind of behavior actually.
Not based at real measurements, i have the feeling software management in MCC works faster.

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 22:44
by doktor5000
BTW: Even in Mageia 1, you have already sotware management in KDE systemsettings ;)

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 23:01
by isadora
doktor5000 wrote:BTW: Even in Mageia 1, you have already sotware management in KDE systemsettings ;)

Sorry doktor5000, but i cannot find it on my machine.
BTW: it seems i messed up my system in some way.
Would you please be so kind to take a look at my reports in Bugzilla?

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3203#c6

....and beyond. Thank you in advance.


Edit: ah okay, i installed kpackagekit and find "Software Management" in System Settings now ;-)

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 23:54
by doktor5000
Saw it already earlier today on bugzilla ;)
If you want to use that machine for further update validation, i'd recommend to
reinstall freshly, as it's more difficult to downgrade packages. Also you'd need
to do this via rpm --oldpackage package-of-mageia1.rpm for each cauldron package
as urpmi doesn't support downgrading.

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 23:56
by isadora
Well, i tried kpackagekit, and that was about it.
It drove my processor like mad, and temperature went up to about 80 degrees Celsius.
So removed it.

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 5th, '11, 23:56
by isadora
doktor5000 wrote:Saw it already earlier today on bugzilla ;)
If you want to use that machine for further update validation, i'd recommend to
reinstall freshly, as it's more difficult to downgrade packages. Also you'd need
to do this via rpm --oldpackage package-of-mageia1.rpm for each cauldron package
as urpmi doesn't support downgrading.

Thanks doktor5000, so i have another challenge. ;)

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 8th, '11, 01:35
by Ken-Bergen
isadora wrote:Well, i tried kpackagekit, and that was about it.
It drove my processor like mad, and temperature went up to about 80 degrees Celsius.
So removed it.
I decided to give it a fair try on a new install and found it wanting.
100% CPU usage for an hour creating the package lists.
Then for updates (686) another half hour of 100% CPU usage looking for programs in use.
After installing the for-mentioned 686 updates it found another 68 packages to update and after clicking apply it wanted several more packages to install one of which was a kernel-desktop586**** at that point I said no not ever.
Code: Select all
urpmi --auto-update
installed the 68 updates and no kernel-desktop586****.

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: Nov 8th, '11, 13:17
by almusalimalmusalimah
packackekit with either of its GUI (( gnome-packagekit / kpackagekit )) have a big problem with some distros

like fedora and mandriva & mageia of course

its use a lot mount of CPU usage and ram just even to update a FEW packages

so .... in my opinion i suggest dropping it and use the command line in fedora or the YUMEXTENDER which is slower than you expect but its more good than gnome-packagekit

and at mageia OR mandriva i will use the command line or use its gui RPMDRAKE which is really the fastest software manager i ever seen in all linux distros that i tried before using mandriva as the main distro

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but to be honest with you KPACKAGE was really really powerfull manager and faster than synaptic in three or more years ago

when it was the main software manager at KDE3

i used it at debian at that time and its really really helpfull than its new version here

Re: Apper software management

PostPosted: May 21st, '14, 07:57
by alex123
I have heard about it,Haven't used because i personally remained busy with Agile Methodology and it always worked for me.This is how something grows when it starts getting the correct responses and at the same time helps while being discussed.