[SOLVED] A few Remarks about Mageia 6 RC

[Erik]

today I installed Mageia 6 RC on a toshiba Satellite 660C from a live USB stick. All went well!! But there a few things that should be looked at:

1. I set my security settings on "default" for desktops; the other settings for the use of passwords are all "default" so that I do not know what they are. So I made the following settings explicit: for installing or removing software: root password, for updates no password. In spite of this at starting the MCC the root password is rejected, and only the user password accepted. Just the same as with Rosa Fresh.

2. Getting-Skype does not work, because of lacking (32-bit) dependencies. The new Skypeforlinuxbeta from the MS-site however does install and work.

3. The list of printers is out of date. My printers (a few years old already) were not on the list. They were detected with a binary connection. I chose an approximate model. When I tried to print a testpage, the printer could not be found. Other distro's offer two options: the binary one and one with the URI in it. Mageia 6 does not do this. So I had to install the drivers from the manufacturer. During installation I had to give the URI myself, it could not be found by the program as in other distro's.

I hope that someone who reads this can tell the developers about these remarks.

Congratulations with this new version that works so well that only a few minor glitches like these remain.

Greetings,

Erik

[doktor5000]

I hope that someone who reads this can tell the developers about these remarks.

Hi there, thanks for the feedback although this is not how this works. Either you engage yourself on the mailing lists or write bug reports about the issues that you encountered and provide sufficient information on that particular issue or nothing will happen about those issues. So, to have a distribution, as you would like to see it, don't hesitate and jump in, get involved into the making.
https://www.mageia.org/contribute/


Regarding 2. for skype, do you have i586 repositories enabled? Please show the output of

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urpmq --list-media active --list-url

Regarding 3. Sorry but you don't even mention what actual printers you do have and how they are attached.

[doktor5000]

Dear Doktor5000,
thank you for your speedy reply.

Some years ago I tried to post a bug, but I did not succeed entering Bugzilla. Somehow I was not accepted. This is why I tried my comment now the way I did. Also I am only an enduser, not in any way capable of contributing with technical remarks. I use Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia since beginning of 2007 (Mandrake 10 new year edition with the stoned penguin) and have always been very happy with this distribution.

The active repositories are:

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[erikjan@localhost ~]$ urpmq --list-media active --list-url
Core Release http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
Core Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/updates
Nonfree Release http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release
Nonfree Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/updates
Tainted Release http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release
Tainted Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/updates
Core 32bit Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/updates
Nonfree 32bit Release http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/nonfree/release
Nonfree 32bit Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/nonfree/updates
Tainted 32bit Release http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release
Tainted 32bit Updates http://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/updates
[erikjan@localhost ~]$


As you see the 32-bit repositories are included.

My apologies for not mentioning the printers I tried to install. I use a brother HL-2135W laser printer an Brother DCP-J152W inkjet for pictures. These are already a few years old. I expected these to be in the list of printers. The installation program suggests HL-2140, but this driver does not print at all. The HL-2135 needs the ppd of HL-2130, that is not included in the list. The Brother DCP-J printers are not included at all. In Rosa Fresh R9 the binary connection between computer and printer works, but not in Mageia 5.1 or 6.

I am very grateful to all developers of Mageia, to you, and all people that help us out in the forums.

Thank you very much.

Greetings,

Erik.

[Ken-Bergen]

You appear to be missing "Core 32bit Release"

[Erik]

Dear Ken-Bergen,

you are quite right. I did not notice that the 32-bit core release was not added. I tried it and found that it is impossible to add it due to a md5-sum error. I tried to change the mirror, and this failed totally, since the cauldron repository on several Dutch mirrors gives errors. I do not know which mirror is the source to all others.

I checked the passwords in MCC. MCC ought to open with the root password, but still does not. So this glitch is real.

Thank you for helping.

Greetings,

Erik.

[Erik]

I just tried again. The problems with cauldron are over. I could download the 32-bit core release and all other media.

Greetings and congratulations with the new Mageia!

Erik

[isadora]

Please Erik, don't forget to mark the topic [SOLVED].
You can do so, by editing the subject/title in the first message in this topic.
Write [SOLVED] to the left of subject/title, thanks ahead.

[saptech]

Are all issues mention solved? How was the MCC root password issue solved? I'm having that problem now.

My bug report about MCC password:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21027

I have three different users with their own desktop profiles and different passwords. For MCC the only password that work is the 3rd user's password, not sure why it chose that one. I hardly use it.

[Erik]

Dear Saptech,
you are quite right. When i put in [SOLVED] I forgot the password issue. Today I update my Mageia 6RC installation and tried again. No change. For MCC I need the user's password. The same issue is in Rosalinux R8. Perhaps Mageia took something from them? The issue is corrected in Rosalinux Fresh R9.

Greetings,

Erik.

[doktor5000]

So I made the following settings explicit: for installing or removing software: root password, for updates no password. In spite of this at starting the MCC the root password is rejected, and only the user password accepted. Just the same as with Rosa Fresh.

Installing and removing software is done by rpmdrake/drakrpm. Updates are done via MageiaOnline.
You need to set the password for MCC itself to root if you want that, which is not what you have done from your description.

Where did you actually configure this, within draksec? https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/5/en/content/draksec.html

[Erik]

Dear Doktor5000,

Yes, I use Draksec to remove a password for updates. There, under Software management I changed the "default" everywhere to "root password" for software management and software Media Manager, while I chose no password at all for updates. This made no difference. So I gave up on the issue and try both passwords when I am unsure which one to choose. (In Konsole I must use the correct password; for software change the user password; for "kdesu dolphin" the root password.)

Greetings,

Erik.

[saptech]

You need to set the password for MCC itself to root if you want that, which is not what you have done from your description.

I set MCC to root also but it didn't make any difference on mine either.

[doktor5000]

Would be interesting how you set that in particular, as draksec doesn't allow to configure this for MCC itself.

[saptech]

For me, it wasn't so much setting the password for MCC but using draksec, system, and authentication. I changed it from default to administrator password, which didn't make any difference when MCC is ran. I still have to use the regular user, speden's password.

[doktor5000]

This seems like an understanding problem to me. Everything within draksec refers to the individual MCC modules. authentication under the system section refers to drakauth: https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/5/en/content/drakauth.html
When you now run drakauth it should only accept the root password.

And I repeat again: draksec doesn't allow to configure this for MCC itself.

[Erik]

Dear doktor5000,

I just tried to run drakauth as user. I got a window asking for authentication. I gave the root password and it was refused. I could start drakauth with my user password.

I am glad you explained the function of draksec and the difference between draksec and drakauth. It seems to me the problem is with the latter, and not with the former as I initially believed.

Thank you for the elucidation.

Greetings,

Erik.

[doktor5000]

Well the issue might be either with the polkit rules or your polkit agent, not with the programs themselves. Polkit rules from draksec should be located in /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-mageia-draksec.rules
For the actual implementation see https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11476 and http://gitweb.mageia.org/software/drakx ... b6c9e9d3d1 which shows what needs to be matched by the polkit rules

+ return $auth{no_passwd} if $overrides{$prog} eq 'YES';
+ return $auth{root_passwd} if $overrides{$prog} eq 'AUTH_ADMIN_KEEP';
+ return $auth{user_passwd} if $overrides{$prog} eq 'AUTH_SELF_KEEP';
+ return $auth{default};

[doktor5000]

Following the info below is what I get: instead of /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-mageia-draksec.rules, I have /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules. Viewing the rules I have only this in mine:

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/ This file is written by draksec. Do not edit.
var drakToolAuth = function(tool){switch (tool){
case 'drakauth': return polkit.Result.AUTH_ADMIN_KEEP;

}return polkit.Result.NOT_HANDLED;};

I looked at the bug report but not sure what to do about this issue.

[alf]

if you put your user into group wheel (can also be done while installing mga6) mcc always asks for user pw.

[saptech]

if you put your user into group wheel (can also be done while installing mga6) mcc always asks for user pw.

Bam...we have a winner!
It seems of my three users, speden is the only one in the wheel group. So that must be why it keeps asking and using his password.

What happens if I remove the wheel group, will mcc want root's password?

Thanks.

[doktor5000]

Well if you try it out you know for sure.