[SOLVED] Mageia 4 beta 2 doesn't boot on Dell Inspiron 17RSE

[bertaerts]

I have a Dell Inspiron 17R SE 7720: Intel Core i7, nVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 3D capabilities and Samsung SSD of 256 GB.
I tried Mageia-4-beta2-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD copied to USB stick with "dd".
But it does not boot from USB stick, pressing escape reveals:

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Checking for new hardware
Starting netprofile: The default is the current profile.

Checking for new hardware
Starting netprofile: The default is the current profile.

Checking for new hardware


Nothing happens anymore...

[martinw]

Did beta 1 work on this machine? Your hardware is very similar to my notebook, which fails with both beta 1 and beta 2 (see my comment here).

[bertaerts]

This is the first time I try out Mageia 4.
So I don't know whether beta 1 would boot...

[martinw]

Could be the same bug then. I suggest filing a new bug, but cross-referencing my bug 11679 to give the developers a hint that it may be a more widespread issue.

[gohlip]

A shot in the dark (but better than nothing, right? )...

Boot up with "nomodeset" in the linux/kernel line.
If booted, rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to something else.

Install graphic drivers ( nvidia-304?) and reboot.

Good luck.

[swecarp]

i have same computer and the beta2 round 4 did work so something in the final is wrong

[bertaerts]

I created a bugreport:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11997

To gohlip:
Your suggestion of "nomodeset" as kernel boot parameter did not make a difference. M4B2 does not boot, keeps hanging at "Checking for new hardware".

To swecarp:
Same computer means also Dell Inspiron 17R SE 7720 with 3D nVIDIA Geforce GT 650M? This graphics card has NO nVIDIA Optimus.

[gohlip]

Your suggestion of "nomodeset" as kernel boot parameter did not make a difference. M4B2 does not boot, keeps hanging at "Checking for new hardware".
.

Okay, at least we gave it a shot.
If you're still game, we can do the following.....

Boot into recovery (at linux/kernel line, add "1" - that's ONE without appos - and type root password when prompt appears)
urpmi --auto-update
install your graphics driver
mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorgold.conf
reboot

Good luck.

[gohlip]

Ah.....forgot some basic issue.
Is your Dell using UEFI? Can it support Legacy-BIOS? Do you have Windows installed and if yes, was it installed in UEFI?

[swecarp]

ops did look i have a dell 5720 i5 with GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M / GT 620M/625M/630M] graph card running mga3 at the moment. boting legazy and has no win instald

[bertaerts]

To gohlip:
My Dell is using legacy-BIOS, not (yet) UEFI.
I have currently Mageia 3 x86_64 and Windows 7 64 bit installed.

Is there a way to tell Mageia 4 beta 2 to use the open source nouveau driver iso nVIDIA proprietary? Maybe that works?

Concerning your "boot into recovery". Is that meant during usage of USB stick as (1) boot M4B2 or (2) install it to external USB disk?

[gohlip]

bertaerts, I'm changing tack (directions) here now because your dell is uefi capable, and booting livecd (in your case 'liveusb') can bring up uefi boot process.
Suspecting uefi boot may be the cause, I checked out the 2 links
http://en.community.dell.com/support-fo ... 03569.aspx
http://www.eightforums.com/general-supp ... order.html

ps: uefi needs gpt and a separate /efi to work
[edit] - and grub-legacy won't work on these.


"nomodeset' boots up without graphic driver installation/wrong installation and Mageia needs "nokmsboot" and "vga=xxx" to boot if properly installed (default is grub-legacy).
I may be wrong (about uefi booting), of course, and if you are certain that uefi booting not the case, let us know and someone else may offer a solution.

Hope you find a solution and wish you good luck.

[bertaerts]

Is there a major change in Mageia 4 versus 3?
I could install Mageia 3 live dvd without issues on my "legacy boot" notebook.
UEFI is not enabled in the BIOS, so I would expect that the bootable usb stick with Mageia 4 does not choose UEFI...

[bertaerts]

I tried the other ISO
Mageia-4-beta2-x86_64-DVD
Installation from USB stick to external USB harddisk succeeded.
Booting from external USB harddisk as well.
Still using grub and legacy BIOS.
There were 2 options during install: selecting the nVIDIA proprietary driver or not.
(I was very happy that this ISO contains (part of) non-free repo, thinking that my wireless could be installed as well, but that was NOT the case.)
Without gave the same "Checking for new hardware" as mentioned before.
With proprietary driver gave:

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nvidia-current (331.20-10.mga4.nonfree): Already installed on this kernel
Checking for new hardware

So my best guess is that there is a kernel issue with Mageia 4 beta 2.

Like swecarp said:

i have same computer and the beta2 round 4 did work so something in the final is wrong

[gohlip]

Did not help much (actually any ) but good to hear.

Cheers.

[Ken-Bergen]

With proprietary driver gave:

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nvidia-current (331.20-10.mga4.nonfree): Already installed on this kernel
Checking for new hardware

So my best guess is that there is a kernel issue with Mageia 4 beta 2.

That's just an information message not an error message.

And I have no idea what swecarp is talking about when he says

the beta2 round 4 did work so something in the final is wrong

as there is no final.

[wilcal]

I have a successful boot to a working desktop on the following platform:

Dell Vostro 1015 Laptop
-----------------------
Celeron 925 2.3Ghz 64-bit 1MB L2 cache 800Mhz FSB 45nm
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express 1Gbit Ethernet
Atheros AR9285 WiFi adapter
1ea Crucial 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333
500GB Seagate HD
Battery: 11.1vdc Li-ion Type: F287H

using:

Mageia-4-beta2-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD.iso
md5sum: 4f34857d09de2253c47ba99935ecf98d

I then setup a WiFi connection, set up my local repo, and made the
install a NFS client. This platform has been extremely Mageia friendly.
Tommorrow this platform, which presently runs Mageia 3, will be
upgraded to Mageia 4 Beta 2. I'll report here on that.

I have found in the past that sometimes installs using a USB drive
vs using a real burned DVD/CD can have different successes. Dell
notebooks tend to be very Mandriva/Mageia friendly.

[swecarp]

With proprietary driver gave:

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nvidia-current (331.20-10.mga4.nonfree): Already installed on this kernel
Checking for new hardware

So my best guess is that there is a kernel issue with Mageia 4 beta 2.

That's just an information message not an error message.

And I have no idea what swecarp is talking about when he says

the beta2 round 4 did work so something in the final is wrong

as there is no final.

I have tested the pre isos and the ones that we in qa did test earlier fore the beta 2 was ok so its the beta 2 thats released that has some thing different from the previous ones that i have tested fore qa

[wilcal]

Tommorrow this platform, which presently runs Mageia 3, will be
upgraded to Mageia 4 Beta 2. I'll report here on that.

I was successfull to install from the Classic Installer KDE 64-bit. But, I'm struggling
with getting it to update from the repo. More testing here.

[bertaerts]

I just installed Mageia 4 RC Mageia-4-RC-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD.
Perfect installation.
So https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11997 with beta 2 is really solved.
Superior. Thanks Mageia Team for the big effort to procude RC !

But...

KDE4.11 was promised to remove video tearing in playing movies with e.g. VLC.
In Magiea 3 video tearing in VLC can be seriously reduced by putting nVIDIA's PowerMizer to maximum performance.
Not so in Mageia 4...
Why was nVIDIA 325.15 selected and not the latest 331.38 ?

Open a text file with kWrite. Open a few ones. They don't show anything.
Every single one of them takes 100% core usage.
Killing them all is the only option.
The only way to start kWrite is from command line...

Matlab R2013a student edition can not be installed anymore as the mac@ of wlan0 or eth0 simply no longer exists.
So the machine's key is now 12 zeros in stead of a valid mac@.
Wireless network name is now a strange string of numbers and characters...

Let's conclude with good news: Mageia 4's kernel 3.12 finally supports my Alps touchpad.
In Mageia 3 I had to patch the kernel sources and build my own custom kernel.
Not needed anymore with Mageia 4.