Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

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Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby Lebarhon » Nov 30th, '12, 20:11

Hello,
On a laptop DELL Latitude D630 I tried this update.
At the end of the Installing step, I had the message:
"An error occured"
"Installation failed"
then
"Do you have further supplementary media ?
(followed by the list : none, CDROM, Network ...)
Here, whatever my answer was, I entered a loop which always lead to the same message. When I chosed Internet, some packages were updates and again the same message. No button to go out. I made a salvage reboot, but neither mageia2 nor mageia3 were working any more.
The more disturbing is that I can't re-install Mageia2 with the Live CD, black screen after some comments followed by Ok. the key F6 to enter options isn't working.
So, I am re-installing Mageia1.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 1st, '12, 10:51

Lebarhon wrote:The more disturbing is that I can't re-install Mageia2 with the Live CD, black screen after some comments followed by Ok. the key F6 to enter options isn't working.
So, I am re-installing Mageia1.


Did you use the same Mageia 2 LiveCD to install on the same hardware before?

About DVD drakx-installer-stage2 installs: I've had failed installations if I enabled additional media before the great heap of packages were installed, but it never happened to me when I only used the DVD to install from.

In my case, I always saw a message about packages that had failed to install, too (not sure whether you can see that message if you choose to keep seeing the slide show). Did you get such a message?
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby Lebarhon » Dec 1st, '12, 19:16

Hello Marja,

marja wrote:Did you use the same Mageia 2 LiveCD to install on the same hardware before?

Yes
marja wrote:In my case, I always saw a message about packages that had failed to install, too (not sure whether you can see that message if you choose to keep seeing the slide show). Did you get such a message?

Yes, I had this message that said that some packages installation failed. But all the packages were about Java JRE. I needed them to work with Calenco and I though the error message was expected since they were not Mageia packages. The loop began soon after.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 3rd, '12, 08:29

Lebarhon wrote:Hello Marja,

marja wrote:Did you use the same Mageia 2 LiveCD to install on the same hardware before?

Yes

Maybe that LiveCD got damaged? Or there is something wrong with the hardware now? If the hardware is the same and the LiveCD is the same, it should just work.
Lebarhon wrote:Yes, I had this message that said that some packages installation failed. But all the packages were about Java JRE. I needed them to work with Calenco and I though the error message was expected since they were not Mageia packages. The loop began soon after.


Ouch. It would have been better to remove third-party and obsoleted packages before install. You can find them by running
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urpmq --not-available
right after updating your system. That shows the packages you have installed, but that aren't on our mirrors.
We should advise to remove them before upgrading.

Was installing Mageia 1 successful? Luigi plans (EDIT: sorry, he only considers) to commit security updates for Mageia 1 to SVN, even though they won't be built. People who need them can then build them locally.

About Calenco, it is now possible to have write webdav access with:

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$ dolphin webdav://YOURNICK%40mageia.org:YOURPASSWORD@vargas.calenco.com:8284/workspaces/Documentation/classifications


However, after finishing your changes to a file, you still need to upload it in your browser to the Calenco website to increment the version number of the file.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 3rd, '12, 09:10

A strong impression I have, is that if you enable additional media (online repositories that can get updated), and an important package is newer on the mirror than on your DVD, but gets again updated on the mirror after you started the install packages step, but before that package is installed, you're in trouble, because installer will try to find the former version which isn't there any more.

If my impression is correct (does anybody know?), then it would be better to never choose any mirror as additional medium when installing an alpha or beta, because crucial packages get updated very often in cauldron.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby Ken-Bergen » Dec 3rd, '12, 09:41

marja wrote:A strong impression I have, is that if you enable additional media (online repositories that can get updated), and an important package is newer on the mirror than on your DVD, but gets again updated on the mirror after you started the install packages step, but before that package is installed, you're in trouble, because installer will try to find the former version which isn't there any more.

If my impression is correct (does anybody know?), then it would be better to never choose any mirror as additional medium when installing an alpha or beta, because crucial packages get updated very often in cauldron.
I believe you're correct.
I've tried Cauldron installs using Internet sources a few times and most failed because of files disappearing.
Actually the files don't disappear but get updated.

With a stable release Core, Non-Free and Tainted never change but with Cauldron there's nothing in Updates, it all gets pushed to the main repositories.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby Lebarhon » Dec 3rd, '12, 19:53

marja wrote:Ouch. It would have been better to remove third-party and obsoleted packages before install. You can find them by running
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urpmq --not-available
right after updating your system. That shows the packages you have installed, but that aren't on our mirrors.
We should advise to remove them before upgrading.

If so, updating is without any interest, better make a clean install.
marja wrote:Was installing Mageia 1 successful? Luigi plans (EDIT: sorry, he only considers) to commit security updates for Mageia 1 to SVN, even though they won't be built. People who need them can then build them locally.

Yes, it was as was the update to Mageia2 with the DVD ISO.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 3rd, '12, 21:19

Ken-Bergen wrote:I believe you're correct.
I've tried Cauldron installs using Internet sources a few times and most failed because of files disappearing.
Actually the files don't disappear but get updated.

Thanks for the feed back :)


Lebarhon wrote:If so, updating is without any interest, better make a clean install.

Yes, I agree.
Lebarhon wrote:Yes, it was as was the update to Mageia2 with the DVD ISO.

Ah, perfect :-D
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby filip » Dec 4th, '12, 15:00

marja wrote:Ouch. It would have been better to remove third-party and obsoleted packages before install. You can find them by running
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urpmq --not-available
right after updating your system. That shows the packages you have installed, but that aren't on our mirrors.
We should advise to remove them before upgrading.
I have a ton of such packages on mga2. Are they only a waste of space or are they dangerous? I know that vlc request one such package but I don't remember its name apart that its still mga1. A simple wiki page, MAQeia or something like that would be nice about that issue.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 4th, '12, 15:54

filip wrote:
marja wrote:Ouch. It would have been better to remove third-party and obsoleted packages before install. You can find them by running
Code: Select all
urpmq --not-available
right after updating your system. That shows the packages you have installed, but that aren't on our mirrors.
We should advise to remove them before upgrading.
I have a ton of such packages on mga2. Are they only a waste of space or are they dangerous? I know that vlc request one such package but I don't remember its name apart that its still mga1. A simple wiki page, MAQeia or something like that would be nice about that issue.


A ton?

Can you give a few examples?
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby filip » Dec 4th, '12, 18:23

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libhunspell1.2_0-1.2.15-1.1.mga1.i586
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libegroupwise13-2.32.2-1.mga1.i586
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mariadb-extra-5.5.25-2.3.mga2.i586
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libcdio12-0.82-3.mga1.i586
java-1.6.0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.26-0.2.mga1.nonfree.i586
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hplip-3.12.4-1.1.mga2.i586
mariadb-client-5.5.25-2.3.mga2.i586
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java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0.26-0.2.mga1.nonfree.i586
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libktcore12-4.1.3-1.mga1.i586
libkorganizer_eventviewer4-4.4.11.1-2.1.mga1.i586
libcgraph5-2.26.3-7.mga1.i586
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libboost_filesystem1.44.0-1.44.0-6.mga1.i586                                                                                                             
libcamel19-2.32.2-1.mga1.i586                                                                                                                           
libgmime2.4_2-2.4.23-2.mga1.i586                                                                                                                         
libxulrunner7.0.1-7.0.1-0.1.mga1.i586                                                                                                                   
libcdio_cdda0-0.82-3.mga1.i586                                                                                                                           
libmbox4-4.4.11.1-0.1.mga1.i586                                                                                                                         
libkabc_slox4-4.4.11.1-2.1.mga1.i586                                                                                                                     
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 4th, '12, 18:52

At first sight, it seems a mixture of packages that have the last available version (firefox and thunderbird, even though Firefox 17 is in Updates_testing ), that are an old version (libhunspell, now 1.3.2-2.mga2, and mariadb-extra, now 5.5.25-2.4.mga2) and that aren't in Mageia 2 at all (libkalarm_resources4).

It seems the command doesn't work as well as I had thought, at least Firefox and Thunderbird shouldn't be in the list :?
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 4th, '12, 19:05

and it is even worse, because the version of mariadb-extra you have, is still available in the core/updates repository

You didn't disable the core/updates medium for Mageia 2?
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby filip » Dec 4th, '12, 19:29

marja wrote:You didn't disable the core/updates medium for Mageia 2?
No. I have all three Releases, Updates and Backports enabled. Plus google-talkplugin medium.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 4th, '12, 22:01

filip wrote:
marja wrote:You didn't disable the core/updates medium for Mageia 2?
No. I have all three Releases, Updates and Backports enabled. Plus google-talkplugin medium.


By all three releases you mean: core + nonfree + tainted?

Can you disable the google medium and see whether it is any better?

If that doesn't help, can you keep it disabled, but run (as root)
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rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*

and then
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rpm --rebuilddb


to see whether after that, you get a better result for
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urpmq --not-available
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 4th, '12, 23:22

urpmq --not-available works exactly as intented, it shows all packages which are currently installed, but not available from the currently configured repos,
or they may currently not be on the mirror you're using. Also it won't help to rebuild package database, if it's not broken.
Better do an
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urpmq --not-available | sort
and then go through the list. Also the release and subrelease must be exactly the same,
otherwise it will be treated as different packages, as they would be in that case.

For comparison, here's my list:

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[doktor5000@Mageia2 ~]$ urpmq --not-available | sort
audex-0.74b1-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-alsamixer-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-animated-icons-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-cairo-penguin-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-clipper-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-clock-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-composite-manager-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-dbus-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-desklet-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-dialog-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-dnd2share-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-drop_indicator-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-dustbin-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-Folders-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-gnome-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-icon-effect-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-illusion-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-impulse-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-kde-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-keyboard-indicator-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-logout-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-mail-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-motion_blur-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-musicPlayer-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-netspeed-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-plugins-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-plugins-debug-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-plugins-i18n-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-powermanager-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-quick-browser-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-recent-events-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-remote-control-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-rssreader-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-shared-images-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-shortcuts-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-showdesktop-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-show_mouse-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-slider-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-stack-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-switcher-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-System-monitor-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-systray-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-terminal-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-tomboy-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-toons-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-vala-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-weather-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-weblets-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-wifi-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-xfce-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
cairo-dock-xgamma-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
calligra-2.4.3-1.mga2.x86_64
chromaprint-debug-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
dumpcap-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
easymp3gain-0.5.0-1mga1.x86_64
exo-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
firefox-17.0-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
firefox-de-17.0-1mga2.tainted.noarch
firefox-devel-17.0-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
get-skype-4.0.0.7-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch
glibc-debug-2.14.1-8.mga2.x86_64
gnuvd-1.0.12-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
gwibber-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
handbrake-0.9.8-1mga2.x86_64
keepassx-2.0-0.alpha3.git20121031.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
kid3-2.1-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
leptonica-debug-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64chromaprint0-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64chromaprint0-devel-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64exo1_0-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
lib64exo-devel-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
lib64gwibber2-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64gwibber-gir0.2-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64leptonica3-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64leptonica-devel-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64rpm2-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
lib64rsvg2_2-2.36.1-1.mga2.x86_64
lib64rsvg2-devel-2.36.1-1.mga2.x86_64
lib64tesseract3-3.01-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
lib64vdpau1-0.4.1-3.1mga2.x86_64
lib64wireshark1-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
lib64wireshark-devel-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
lib64xfce4ui1_0-4.10.0-2.mga2.x86_64
lib64xfce4util4-4.8.2-1.1.mga2.x86_64
lib64xfce4util6-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
lib64xfce4util-devel-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
libxfce4ui-4.10.0-2.mga2.x86_64
libxfce4util-i18n-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
me-tv-1.3.6-5mga2.x86_64
powertop-2.1-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
python-rpm-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
rawshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
rosa-media-player-1.5-8.x86_64
rpm-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
rpm-build-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
spotify-client-0.8.4.103.g9cb177b.260-2.x86_64
teamviewer7-7.0.9360-1.i386
tesseract-3.01-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
tesseract-eng-3.01-2mga2.tainted.noarch
tshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
wireshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
wireshark-debug-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
wireshark-tools-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64


You can easily do the reverse check and try to install those packages, it will not be possible:
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[doktor5000@Mageia2 ~]$ sudo LC_ALL=C urpmi $(urpmq --not-available)
No package named tesseract-eng-3.01-2mga2.tainted.noarch
No package named cairo-dock-keyboard-indicator-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-clock-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named me-tv-1.3.6-5mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named powertop-2.1-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64chromaprint0-devel-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-drop_indicator-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-systray-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named leptonica-debug-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named get-skype-4.0.0.7-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch
No package named lib64xfce4ui1_0-4.10.0-2.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-plugins-i18n-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-xgamma-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64gwibber2-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64rsvg2_2-2.36.1-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-clipper-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named wireshark-debug-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-show_mouse-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named wireshark-tools-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-showdesktop-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64exo1_0-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-shared-images-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named dumpcap-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-terminal-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-logout-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named spotify-client-0.8.4.103.g9cb177b.260-2.x86_64
No package named firefox-de-17.0-1mga2.tainted.noarch
No package named tshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-switcher-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64leptonica3-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named rpm-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named glibc-debug-2.14.1-8.mga2.x86_64
No package named lib64chromaprint0-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64wireshark1-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named lib64xfce4util6-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-dnd2share-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-musicPlayer-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-plugins-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named easymp3gain-0.5.0-1mga1.x86_64
No package named kid3-2.1-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64xfce4util-devel-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-animated-icons-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-icon-effect-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-System-monitor-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named calligra-2.4.3-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named audex-0.74b1-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named gwibber-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64rsvg2-devel-2.36.1-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-dustbin-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-wifi-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-remote-control-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named libxfce4ui-4.10.0-2.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-dbus-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-slider-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-plugins-debug-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named gnuvd-1.0.12-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named handbrake-0.9.8-1mga2.x86_64
No package named firefox-devel-17.0-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named exo-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-composite-manager-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-motion_blur-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-quick-browser-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-recent-events-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64tesseract3-3.01-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named python-rpm-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named lib64gwibber-gir0.2-3.4.0-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-gnome-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-weather-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-toons-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named teamviewer7-7.0.9360-1.i386
No package named chromaprint-debug-0.7-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named rawshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-Folders-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-netspeed-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-shortcuts-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64xfce4util4-4.8.2-1.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-cairo-penguin-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-stack-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64exo-devel-0.8.0-1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-impulse-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named libxfce4util-i18n-4.10.0-1.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named lib64wireshark-devel-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-weblets-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named rpm-build-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named rosa-media-player-1.5-8.x86_64
No package named wireshark-1.8.0-1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-kde-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-vala-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64leptonica-devel-1.69-1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64rpm2-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-mail-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named tesseract-3.01-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-desklet-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-rssreader-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named firefox-17.0-2mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-illusion-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-xfce-integration-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-alsamixer-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-tomboy-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named keepassx-2.0-0.alpha3.git20121031.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named lib64vdpau1-0.4.1-3.1mga2.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-dialog-rendering-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
No package named cairo-dock-powermanager-2.4.0_2-3.1mga2.tainted.x86_64
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby Ken-Bergen » Dec 5th, '12, 00:19

Please post the contents of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby marja » Dec 6th, '12, 01:09

Lebarhon wrote:At the end of the Installing step, I had the message:
"An error occured"
"Installation failed"


Just got that message, too, with a cauldron boot.iso install (I had to install beta1 for feedback about 2 bugs). But now I saw a solution I hadn't seen before: I went to tty2, rebooted by pressing ctrl-alt-del and did an upgrade install of the install that had just failed. That fixed it. The root password and a normal user still needed to be added, though, because this was started as a clean install.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby filip » Dec 8th, '12, 15:35

marja wrote:to see whether after that, you get a better result for
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urpmq --not-available

Reading your responses I did two things:
1. I fixed a mirror (it seems to me that this one is fast and regularly updated: ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/) which BTW surprised me with at least one very old update. I mean really old: rpm-4.9.1.3-2.1.mga2.i586 released in July. That removed all mga2 entries.
2. Those from mga1 I removed one by one (with a shell script). I only left libxcb-keysyms1-0.3.6-3.mga1.i586 as required by vlc-2.0.3-2.2.mga2.tainted.i586 and java as it needs some more work.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 8th, '12, 20:46

filip wrote:2. Those from mga1 I removed one by one (with a shell script). I only left libxcb-keysyms1-0.3.6-3.mga1.i586 as required by vlc-2.0.3-2.2.mga2.tainted.i586 and java as it needs some more work.

Not all packages have been automatically rebuild before Mageia 2 was released, so those mga1 packages still belong to Mageia 2, and needn't be removed, if you did a clean install. If you had a proper set of repos, and urpmq --not-available still displayed them, then they should go. For comparison purposes, on a clean install with all updates and many packages installed, i've got nearly 400 mga1 packages:
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[doktor5000@Mageia2 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep mga1 | wc -l
394


FWIW, you don't need to remove any package, as it doesn't do any harm per se.
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby filip » Dec 9th, '12, 13:55

Thanks doktor5000. I always learn from you. I hope that I didn't broke any functionality either by removing them. Almost all of them were libs and none of them required mga2 package and vice versa (except already mentioned vlc).
I upgraded to mga2 with automatic mirrors but this lesson told me to do a clean install with fixed repos instead for mga3.
I also hope that full rebuild will be successful for mga3. Possibly at least for beta2 ;).
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Re: Update Mageia2 with Mageia3Alpha3

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 9th, '12, 21:04

filip wrote:I also hope that full rebuild will be successful for mga3. Possibly at least for beta2 ;).

I'm not up to date on the status of this one, but it's work-in-progress, results at http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/


FWIW, i've never did any upgrade. I'll always do a backup of relevant settings in my /home,
and in my backup folder i've got a text file and some other files for small adaptions, and normally i also need
to download intel wireless firmware, wpa_supplicant as i'm installing from the Free DVD.
Then just do a fresh install, formatting / and /home, and after install is complete,
and wireless is running again (takes like 30minutes altogether) i can already work with the system,
do updates, copy back all my backed-up settings and so on. So overall downtime is like 30-45 minutes,
and no hassle or troubleshooting weird problems afterwards.
When i'm at it, i'll never migrate over full KDE settings, because mostly that causes bad hiccups.
Only some few selected applications which don't cause any problems can use their old settings without problems.
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