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Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby ethancello » Apr 20th, '12, 03:04

Thanks in advanced for any help provided.

Chromium Browser
Gnome-config
PeaZip
Dropbox
IBM Lotus Symphony

Media Codecs for Banshee
ALAC, AAC (I share a media library with iTunes in my Windows partition)

I'm running Mageia 2 Beta 3 x64 GNOME3

Any help appreciated
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby obgr_seneca » Apr 20th, '12, 10:11

Well, if you could really ask questions about it...
Nobody knows, what the trouble is, you are having with the first block, so nobody will be able to help you. My chrystal ball is in repair right now :)

About those media codecs, at least AAC is not in the repos, since it does not fit our policies. And I don't know ALAC.

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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby doktor5000 » Apr 20th, '12, 17:34

obgr_seneca wrote:About those media codecs, at least AAC is not in the repos, since it does not fit our policies. And I don't know ALAC.

Well, we have no AAC encoder (faac) but we have faad to decode AAC.
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby ethancello » Apr 20th, '12, 20:02

I got chromium working.

Dropbox isn't working correctly (I used the 64 bit rpm)

When I used openSUSE AAC and ALAC worked when I installed gstreamer. Will that work on Mageia?

For PeaZip and Lotus Symphony, the only rpms I can find are 32 bit.
Can anyone help me install 32 bit rpms (I am very new to mageia)?
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby jaywalker » Apr 20th, '12, 20:09

If you have set up your remote software repositories in the standard way in the Mageia Control Centre and you have selected ALL rather than just UPDATE sources then you should already have the 32-bit stuff available. That is where you will find 32-bit applications to install.
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby ethancello » Apr 20th, '12, 20:17

Can I install a 32 bit rpm by double clicking on it or "sudo rpm -Uvh --nodeps <package>.rpm" the same as I would a 64 bit rpm?
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby morgano » Apr 20th, '12, 22:02

ethancello wrote:Dropbox isn't working correctly


1) First use this forums search function and search on "Dropbox", and also search bugzilla, and you will probably find resolution.

2) If that do not work, describe your problem and we will try to help
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby jaywalker » Apr 21st, '12, 04:25

ethancello wrote:Can I install a 32 bit rpm by double clicking on it or "sudo rpm -Uvh --nodeps <package>.rpm" the same as I would a 64 bit rpm?

The Mageia way is the same as the Mandriva/Mandrake way, but if you are not familiar with these distributions, here is a quick link to all you need to know to use the system's excellent package installing gui (called rpmdrake and also found in the Mageia Control Centre - the Software Mnagement section).

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_management

The command line version in Mageia (and Mandriva) is
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urpmi <packagename>
which you must execute as root. The common Mageia way is to use the su command and enter your root password, urpmi is a very powerful command which can do everything the rpm command does, and more. I recommend you check out the man pages.

As rpmdrake uses urpmi, once you have configured your remote repositories (easiest done using the Mageia Control Centre -> Software Management -> Configure Media ... ) then both rpmdrake and urpmi are ready for use.
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby ethancello » Apr 21st, '12, 18:43

jaywalker wrote:
ethancello wrote:Can I install a 32 bit rpm by double clicking on it or "sudo rpm -Uvh --nodeps <package>.rpm" the same as I would a 64 bit rpm?

The Mageia way is the same as the Mandriva/Mandrake way, but if you are not familiar with these distributions, here is a quick link to all you need to know to use the system's excellent package installing gui (called rpmdrake and also found in the Mageia Control Centre - the Software Mnagement section).

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_management

The command line version in Mageia (and Mandriva) is
Code: Select all
urpmi <packagename>
which you must execute as root. The common Mageia way is to use the su command and enter your root password, urpmi is a very powerful command which can do everything the rpm command does, and more. I recommend you check out the man pages.

As rpmdrake uses urpmi, once you have configured your remote repositories (easiest done using the Mageia Control Centre -> Software Management -> Configure Media ... ) then both rpmdrake and urpmi are ready for use.


I am aware of this, but not all software is available via repositories. My question is how to install software when not in a repository (an rpm file) that is also for a 32 bit system (mine is 64)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urpmi
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby jaywalker » Apr 21st, '12, 20:27

What I normally do, not necessarily the best way, is download the rpm and then try to install it with urpmi. My reasoning is that it might install if it can find matches for its requirements in the Mageia repositories. Failing that it will tell me what It needs and I can either bodge a solution with symlinks or, as a last resort, I can try to build whatever it needs from sources.

It can be useful to first check if what you need is available as a Mandriva rpm as they are still not too far away from being directly usable in Mageia. For example, the SooperLooper sound pattern recording program is not available for Mageia, but the Mandriva rpm only fails to satisfy one of its requirements from the Mageia repositories (a thread library) . The Mandriva version of this library will happily install in Mageia and if you do that first then the SooperLooper package installs without complaint.

A similar approach may well work for you too. I would not normally recommend using the nodeps approach, except, perhaps, as a last resort and fully expecting that the package may not work as expected.

Also bear in mind that the 32-bit repositories normally configured in a 64-bit install do not include the "tainted" and "nonfree" packages. Nothing prevents you from adding them too if it will help either with main 32-bit applications or with 32-bit support packages (libraries and the like).

ethancello wrote:Can I install a 32 bit rpm by double clicking on it

Yes. That works for me in pcmanfm (file manger) under LXDE. It will pop-up a request for the root password.
ethancello wrote:or "sudo rpm -Uvh --nodeps <package>.rpm"

I suppose that might work but I have no experience of the sudo command so I cannot say for sure. If it is configured for you to use it then it should do its job. As to the options for rpm; -v might be useful, -h would give you something to watch while you wait. I suspect -U would only help if there are existing packages to upgrade. Perhaps -i would be enough for an ordinary install? I cannot see how --nodeps will help unless you really know that you do not need all of the package's requirements, then again, nothing beats a good try :-)
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Re: Software I'm having trouble installing on m2b3

Postby obgr_seneca » Apr 21st, '12, 20:34

Different from the *buntu world, sudo may not be installed and sure is not configured under Mageia. You can either install and configure sudo for everything you need or get root permissions by using
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su -


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