"I think that email is the method of choice because it answers all of the needs.
It is documented automatically by everybody involved (unless you delete emails) and archived on our servers. This makes it easy to go back and look for something, keep notes, reminders, etc'.
It is not instantaneous. The problem with coordinating with people across the world is time zones. Sleep times, work times, leisure times... they're all different all over the world. It is very hard to hold a team meeting with people on 5 continents. Email introduces its own built-in time delay that allows everybody to be connected as soon as they want to be.
Ease of access."
Garthhh wrote:Just keeping up with the conversation, tends to require a fair investment of time
Think about it the other way, from the point of view of developers - it takes much longer for them in forums to get the information they need, to filter out relevant threads and also looking at the needed bandwith, mails & irc clearly wins over forums. So they will use what is more effective and works for them.
Garthhh wrote:All those points are true for the email lists
& they would be just as true where these exchanges where visible here or on the wiki
I can & do ignore folders on my email, when I don't have the time or energy to deal
the benefit is that the archive would be somewhat more organized & public
as a Community based distro transparency should be encouraged
the process of documentation would be expedited
Still they stick to avoiding forums. Makes me believe that they prefer lists because of only one reason: lists are generally not used by many "normal users".
Garthhh wrote:thanks to Max for pointing out that there is an archive available
the time penalty on the front end will keep most away
which on one level is the intent
wobo wrote:Still they stick to avoiding forums. Makes me believe that they prefer lists because of only one reason: lists are generally not used by many "normal users".
Garthhh wrote:a common database that could be used for documentation in a nearly automatic way...
doktor5000 wrote:On a related note, you cannot force people to like the "communication modes" or ways you like, the same as you don't
want to be forced. And even more so, you cannot force people to communicate the way you want them to communicate.
@oj: Good mailreaders can be set up to not show quoted parts ...
F.ex.: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunde ... ecollapse/
doktor5000 wrote:Garthhh wrote:a common database that could be used for documentation in a nearly automatic way...
Which rules out forums, too. Hint: a wiki does not fill up automatically, and not everybody takes a look in a wiki,
many people like forums and person-to-person contacts/troubleshooting.
By the way, rereading your posts, you complain quite a lot, but miss the major parts with the constructive criticism
and proposals for solutions (except for the wiki part, which is disputable -> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Doc ... iki_is_for )
If there are no proposals for every point you mentioned, even if that is a valid point, then that is useless.
On a related note, you cannot force people to like the "communication modes" or ways you like, the same as you don't
want to be forced. And even more so, you cannot force people to communicate the way you want them to communicate.
@oj: Good mailreaders can be set up to not show quoted parts ...
F.ex.: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunde ... ecollapse/
You are welcome with different (even new) opinions and ideas. That's what the doktor had asked for.Garthhh wrote:I get it I'm not welcome to have an opinion or try to have a discussion on any matter involving Mageia, without being subject to your royal decrees
No problem. You may not know that in a forum such as this one each single post does have a unique identifier and nobody is forced to quote. But sometimes you only want to reply to parts of the previous post or even to parts of a yesterdays post. So he has to quote what you want to comment or reply to.that there is a fullquote issue is due to this forums poor design
each post should have a unique identifier, so a user can reply to a specific post & nested display so one can follow the individual fibers of a thread
doktor5000 wrote:Well, where are you proposals for different forum software, or how to improve existing platform, and minimize duplication?
There's one forum software you proposed, the only thing i've seen there is the rating of posts.
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