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Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby Lebarhon » Sep 25th, '12, 22:18

Hello,

On the MLO French forum, somebody gave a very interesting link about a French first minister circular.
http://www.mageialinux-online.org/forum ... libres.php

It's of course in French, this circular dated September the 19th, defines new created structures in the government to help the Free software to be chosen by the administration each time it is possible.
There is several working groups, for example, one is studying the different distros to work with. Deadline at the end of 2012.
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby macxi » Sep 25th, '12, 23:40

Lebarhon,
I hope the French government choose the distribution Mageia for their open source projects. And recognize the great work that Mageia.org (French nonprofit organization) and the community of users and developers around the world are doing

There are several sites reporting this event:

Zdnet - In french: Usage du logiciel libre dans l'administration, une circulaire et une lettre de Jean-Marc Ayrault - par Thierry Noisette - 23 sept 2012


Site 01net - In french: L’Etat français privilégie l’utilisation de logiciels libres - Gilbert Kallenborn 24/09/2012

Linuxfr.org - In french: Communauté Circulaire du Premier ministre sur l’usage des logiciels libres dans l’Administration - Stefane Fermigier - 22 sept.2012


Note: A news of 2012, reporting the support of the French Government to free software French promotes support of free software
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby Lebarhon » Sep 26th, '12, 15:11

An opportunity for Mageia? I can see this circular is already very well known, I like very much the way free software is introduced in this text. I hope this will lead to positive results.
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby macxi » Sep 26th, '12, 16:27

Lebarhon wrote:An opportunity for Mageia?

Why not? Dreaming is free. Mageia.Org is a French nonprofit organization. There is a news in 2012 that France would give € 2,000,000, as support for open source, ten areas to cover are. Among them, the first was: 1 - SYSTEMS Operating software and associated base: Debian and CentOS (see here - Lemonde informatique.fr ). I think it should be easier for the French government, support for the French entities.

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        The government launched a tender on software maintenance free
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        L'Etat lance un appel d'offres sur la maintenance des logiciels libres

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        The government has published a tender worth an estimated two million covering a wide area as organizational application.

        Directorate of Information Systems and Communication of the Ministry of the Interior, Overseas, Local Authorities and Immigration has issued a tender to find a provider providing software maintenance Free employed by the state. The public market is a framework agreement with the estimated amount of two million euros over three years, this amount is non-binding. A one-year extension is contemplated.

        The answers should be sent to buyer service before January 9, 2012. There will be one recipient in the market, possibly a solidarity group or a group spouse. Notification is scheduled for March 30, 2012.

        Ten domains are covered:

        1 - Operating Systems and software associated base: Debian and CentOS, virtualization tool such as KVM
        2 - Servers and presentation applications: Apache, Tomcat, JOnAS, CMS
        3 - languages ​​and development frameworks: JAVA, PHP, XML, Perl, Eclipse, Struts
        4 - RDBMS: PostgreSQL, MySQL
        5 - Office: OpenOffice
        6 - Tools and networks supervision and operation: Ethereal, Jmeter, Nagios
        7 - Security Tools: Tripwire OpenSSL
        8 - Directory Services and Messaging: OpenLDAP, Sendmail
        9 - Portals and document management, knowledge management: Nuxeo Ezpublish, Alfresco
        10 - Indexing and search: Lucene, Zettair

        Almost all central government is concerned:

        - The Prime Minister;
        - Court of Auditors;
        - Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs;
        - The Ministry of Defence and Veterans Affairs;
        - Ministry of Ecology, Sustainable Development, Transport and Housing;
        - The Ministry of Justice and Liberties;
        - Ministry of the Interior, Overseas, Local Authorities and Immigration;
        - Ministry of Labour, Employment and Health (Health sector);
        - Ministry of Labour, Employment and Health (Sector Labour);
        - Ministry of National Education, Youth and Associative Life (Education sector);
        - Ministry of National Education, Youth and Associative Life (youth sector and Associative Life);
        - Ministry of Agriculture, Food, Fisheries, Rural Affairs and Spatial Planning;
        - The Ministry of Culture and Communication;
        - The Ministry of Solidarity and Social Cohesion
        - Ministry of Higher Education and Research;
        - Ministry of the City;
        - Ministry of Sports.
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby wobo » Sep 26th, '12, 16:56

macxi wrote:I think it should be easier for the French government, support for the French entities.

Well, dreaming is not forbidden. But we have to be realistic nevertheless:.

1. Open Source != non-commercial. As public offices the French administration will have to contract some solution/migration company for each migration task. There isn't such a company of appropriate size doing their business with Mageia (yet).
2. Previous cases show that the French government does not see the nationality as prime factor, they even preferred Ubuntu over the French commercial company Mandriva SA in two major cases.

Example from Germany: Since 2000 the German public office for IT-Security (BSI) has been advising officially and repeatedly all German public offices to prefer Open Source for their IT. Still, almost nobody listened to this advice, usage of Open Source in public offices in Germany is very rare.

Of course, even if nothing will come out of it, in the big picture this talk about Open Source is a positive advertizing for FOSS in general.
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby Lebarhon » Sep 26th, '12, 18:50

You are right Wobo, the government will contract with major companies. But once the administration uses Linux, what will do the schools (small or big), the associations - there is in France many associations connected with the local school, sport clubs, and at the end, many people at home ?
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby wobo » Sep 26th, '12, 19:31

Lebarhon wrote:You are right Wobo, the government will contract with major companies. But once the administration uses Linux, what will do the schools (small or big), the associations - there is in France many associations connected with the local school, sport clubs, and at the end, many people at home ?

The big advantage of Linux is that you can use almost all flavors of Linux, no matter what the teacher in school is using, you will still be able to follow up at home. But in school or other educational organisations Mandriva has a good chance to score, they have been offering edu distributions including customized for french school system.

But IMHO schools (if they listen to reason) will try to migrate to the distribution most students already know (this could well be Mandriva or Mageia in France).
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Re: Linux is spreading in the French administration

Postby macxi » Sep 27th, '12, 11:11

Hi,
Another news about this subject, highlighting the use of LibreOffice and for now, no particular operating system:

      Computerworlduk.com - French government to use PostgreSQL and LibreOffice in free software adoption push
      (The plan could see up to 10 percent of money saved on proprietary software licenses reinvested in improving free software) - By Peter Sayer - IDG News Service - Published 16:05, 25 September 12

      (...)

      Firefox or Chrome?
      That report shies away for the most part from recommending specific applications or operating systems, but does say that existing projects to adopt the LibreOffice desktop productivity suite and the PostgreSQL database engine are "essential."

      On the desktop, the report highlights areas for study, including whether to use the Trustedbird mail client or Thunderbird, and whether to choose Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. It also suggests creating a system for converting existing documents into free formats, and participating in the development of a grammar checker to integrate with other software.

      While the report clearly favors PostgreSQL for database applications, it recommends watching the future evolution of MySQL, MariaDB, SkySQL and the various "NoSQL" code bases.

      The French administration favors no particular operating system for now, although choosing a distribution of Linux to standardise on is another of the report's recommendations.

      (...)

      Lower cost, flexibility in use
      French free software user group April said on Monday that it hoped the plan would lead to a new government policy prioritising the use and development of free software, inspired by recent changes in Italy's public procurement laws.

      Another lobby group, the National Council for Free Software (CNLL), said that while the state had long been a user of free software, it had rarely taken such a clear stance in favour of it, nor proposed such concrete actions.

      (...)
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