Garthhh wrote:the official position is that wiki participants are to join the mailing list & show up for meetings on IRC
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in lieu of a formal section here on the forum I'll start some threads here on other...
Garthhh wrote:contributors are expected to join the mailing list & attend meetings,
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_team
Garthhh wrote:that there should be a forum section devoted/allocated to matters concerning the wiki
there is a discussion tab on wiki pages, that isn't really conducive to any communication [no obvious way to effectively follow]
I'm going to contribute & the best use of the limited amount of time I have to spend is doing minor edits & adding content to the wiki
contributors are expected to join the mailing list & attend meetings,
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_team
<snip>
there are certain aspects of the wiki that could be improved
you are free to have an opinion, just as I am
doktor5000 wrote:Garthhh wrote:contributors are expected to join the mailing list & attend meetings,
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_team
No, you misunderstood. Team members are required to attend IRC meetings and subscribe to the mailing lists.
If you only want to contribute to the wiki, nothing else is required. For the general matter i've asked the documentation team
to take a look at this thread, should be discussed.
And why do you think the subforum "Basic questions about contributing" should be in the wiki? Or did i misunderstand you there?
Sorry, still unclear what you want to achieve on a greater scale ...
maat wrote:We could open an area about general discussions about improving the wiki... but in this case we would need to define precisely what kind of discussions about the wiki shall be done through the forum and what discussions shall be done through native wiki discussion features
We need to be aware that some wiki maintainers could dislike the idea to have discussions in 2 different tools... i know that forums offer a better "exposition" (though mailing lists are really public and discussions archives are available)
The question would be: what kind of discussions about the wiki would really make (better/greater) sense if done using the forum ? And what kind would make (better/greater) sense if done using wiki features ?
And in each case : why ? :p
doktor5000 wrote:Well, https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Special:SpecialPages from the left panel gives access to some pages which list all categories, and lists of all pages for example, if that helps. And i don't understand why an explanation of how to use the wiki should be in the forums, not in the wiki. But if you want to have one, just add a thread for it.
After all i still did not understand what you actually want to achieve altogether.
barjac wrote:That page to me is a perfect example of what Garthhh is refering to.
It is all about the wiki and wiki maintainence etc. not about Mageia.
People (hopefully) go to the wiki to find stuff about Mageia - and all they find is wki, wiki and more wiki.
There is a lot of info about Mageia in there but it is difficult to find unless you know where to look.
Newcomers unfamiliar with the wiki will just ignore it as too complicated or not relevant as they don't see a direct path to what they need.
I use it to reference packaging guidlines etc., but I always struggle to find the relevant pages and consequently tend to avoid using it.
In my opinion if you have to explain how to use it - it's broken.
Maybe there should be a clear distinction between the navigation for users looking for information and users updating the wiki - it seems to mix the two at present, to the detriment of the former.
Just my 2 cents..
Garthhh wrote:there is no way to read through the sections serially [no next & previous buttons], the only method is to jump back & forth
Garthhh wrote:you can take Dok's view, decide that I'm not doing it right & assume that this stuff is all clear to other noobs
or that the wiki is a tool for the devs
And when i'm searching something, normally i just use the search function. Where's the problem with that?
Garthhh wrote:I have to point out thatAnd when i'm searching something, normally i just use the search function. Where's the problem with that?
sure reads like I'm not doing it right in your opinion
wobo wrote:Garthhh wrote:there is no way to read through the sections serially [no next & previous buttons], the only method is to jump back & forth
As it is you start with the first link, go back, use the second link, go back, use the third link. Anyhow, I think it would be much more userfriendly to rearrange in the following way (3 steps):.......
[[First step with Linux and Mageia|previous]]
Garthhh wrote:I'll get on that
in the next few days
marja wrote:For a start, to work on your own idea too, https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Documentation#Newcomers_start_here would have to be copied to a seperate page, to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Newcomers_start_here because where it is now (in the Category: space) it is impossible to make a nice link back to it.
You can then make links back to that Newcomers start here page and next & previous links, except, of course, for the documentation that is outside the wiki (only one item now, but there'll be more).
To make a "previous" link to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/First_step_with_Linux_and_Mageia use
- Code: Select all
[[First step with Linux and Mageia|previous]]
Next and back links can be made in the same way
Cheers,
marja
Garthhh wrote:
I created the page, but I can't figure out how to include the
Pages in category "Documentation"
from the bottom of the page?
marja wrote:...................................................
Thank you so much for helping with this
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