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Was wondering why them 3 are not on the install dvd.

They are non-free software.

java-1.6.0-openjdk is on the DVD.

java-1.6.0-sun and flash are non-free, as wobo said, so no place for them on the DVD.

chromium-browser isn't on the DVD as it's not installed by default, the DVD can't have all the packages on the repos. Feel free to file a bug report to request including it on the DVD for Mageia 2.

ahmad wrote:java-1.6.0-openjdk is on the DVD.

Oops! Forgot about this one!

wobo wrote:

ahmad wrote:java-1.6.0-openjdk is on the DVD.

Oops! Forgot about this one!

Yes, but... I've run into several problems with openjdk.
Programs written in the sun environment will compile smoothly, but in the openjdk will sometimes throw errors. I noticed this in particular with the Scanner object in java-1.5.0-openjdk. Perhaps they fixed it in 6, but I will not be fooled again.

Yes, openjdk is not 100% compatible to java-sun, so people who need it must de-install openjdk and install java-xx-sun from the non-free repo.

Not exactly, it's enough to install jre-1.6.0-sun in parallel, and afterwards run update-alternatives --config java and switch to jre-1.6.0-sun.

Max wrote:

wobo wrote:

ahmad wrote:java-1.6.0-openjdk is on the DVD.

Oops! Forgot about this one!

Yes, but... I've run into several problems with openjdk.
Programs written in the sun environment will compile smoothly, but in the openjdk will sometimes throw errors. I noticed this in particular with the Scanner object in java-1.5.0-openjdk. Perhaps they fixed it in 6, but I will not be fooled again.

As far as I know, it has been fixed. OpenJDK and Icedtea-web work fine most of the time, there are a few problems including no support of applets that rely on JNLP (work in progress, might be fixed in some months), worse font handling, some limitations in the high level methods of JavaSound (use JOAL instead), some missing APIs especially those of javaws.jar and deploy.jar. If you find any bug, please report it. Java applications should never rely on private APIs subject of removal, they will probably not work in a near future even with further versions of Oracle JVM.

Flash is available by default, it's Gnash instead of Adobe Flash. Don't forget to install all codecs and it will work fine, I use it to play videos on Youtube.

gouessej wrote:

Max wrote:

wobo wrote:

ahmad wrote:java-1.6.0-openjdk is on the DVD.

Oops! Forgot about this one!

Yes, but... I've run into several problems with openjdk.
Programs written in the sun environment will compile smoothly, but in the openjdk will sometimes throw errors. I noticed this in particular with the Scanner object in java-1.5.0-openjdk. Perhaps they fixed it in 6, but I will not be fooled again.

As far as I know, it has been fixed. OpenJDK and Icedtea-web work fine most of the time,

Actually, OpenJDK 7 is now the official Java 7 SE reference implementation.
So I guess that means it works ;P

Yes, it works but some people still have prejudices about OpenJDK...

Max wrote:Programs written in the sun environment will compile smoothly, but in the openjdk will sometimes throw errors.

I've never had a problem with OpenJDK. There are several things that won't work with GCJ, but OpenJDK seems solid.

zooplah wrote:

Max wrote:Programs written in the sun environment will compile smoothly, but in the openjdk will sometimes throw errors.

I've never had a problem with OpenJDK. There are several things that won't work with GCJ, but OpenJDK seems solid.

+1

You may have compile errors when using implementation classes (sun.*) in a very few cases but relying on them is a bad practice anyway.