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Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby wilcal » Mar 24th, '14, 21:44

I have confirmation today that the Lightworks Linux Beta is running
successfully on Mageia 4. And this from the Lightworks Product Manager.
He has also given me the go ahead to introduce the opportunity to
Mageia to include Lightworks to be part of our repository.

http://www.lwks.com/

I have officially opened Bug:

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13071

to start the discussion process to include Lightworks in Mageia.
I doubt there is time to include it in the release version of M5
but maybe in the backports and then ultimately in M6.

Lightworks is a VERY SERIOUS Video Editor. http://shotonwhat.com
lists 134 major motion pictures that were edited using LightWorks.
To have this a part of the Mageia package would be very powerful
for anyone dealing with video editing. There will be a free,
fully functional, version of Lightworks for Linux. The subscription
version would be for folks dealing with the high end digital camera
codecs and special effects(plugins).
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 24th, '14, 23:44

Keep in mind that this is still nonfree, filled with DRM and even brings an EULA.
Also if you want to be serious you probably want the Pro version - which requires a license.
Then consider that they only offer prebuilt rpm packages - so this cannot be imported as-is.

For more opinions also check e.g.
http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2012/11/10/li ... en-source/
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby wilcal » Mar 25th, '14, 01:20

doktor5000 wrote:Keep in mind that this is still nonfree, filled with DRM and even brings an EULA.
Also if you want to be serious you probably want the Pro version - which requires a license.
Then consider that they only offer prebuilt rpm packages - so this cannot be imported as-is.


I am agreeing with all that, but, in my communications today they are certainly considering
all of that. They see the Liunx market as an opportunity and the traditional WinBlows market
as a dying duck. They need a new platform. That's what this Beta is all about.

FWIW I had some conversations some years ago with:

https://www.avid.com

And had those conversations two years in a row. I simply asked them if they were willing
to put the work in to recompile to run on Linux rpm/RedHat/Mandriva. Their answer at that
time, and probably still is/was, absolutely not. AVID as a company is in trouble.

Thanks for your input.
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 26th, '14, 03:11

wilcal wrote:but, in my communications today they are certainly considering
all of that. They see the Liunx market as an opportunity and the traditional WinBlows market
as a dying duck. They need a new platform. That's what this Beta is all about.

Sure, totally comprehensible from your point of view - but to put this into perspective, please read the link I've posted - they mentioned and promised similar things years ago. Sorry, but for a package maintainers perspective, if they don't even provide an easily accessible license and a tarball with the program itself we can use for packaging, I don't see much chances that we can offer AND maintain that. But feel free to prove me wrong from the outcome of the package request bug report.
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby wilcal » Mar 26th, '14, 03:19

doktor5000 wrote:Sure, totally comprehensible from your point of view - but to put this into perspective, please read the link I've posted - they mentioned and promised similar things years ago.

Many thanks again for your input. I am actually in contact with their Product Manager
and they are very aware of all of the above. This in the end may not be a workable
situation for Mageia but I wanted to get the discussion going.

Do note that I have also opened:

OpenShot ver 2.0 is coming
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068

OpenShot 2.0 is projected to be a significant increase in capabilty.
It has also received some nice funding from:
https://www.kickstarter.com

Neither of these packages are gonna be ready for M5. I'm pretty sure OpenShot 2.0
is likely to be part of M6 ( crossed fingers ).
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 26th, '14, 22:00

wilcal wrote:Do note that I have also opened:

OpenShot ver 2.0 is coming
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068

Well, I'm interested and curious as user, but on the other hand as packager I don't care. Effectively at the moment we don't have even enough packagers to maintain all the packages we have in our repositories, nearly 3000 are currently unmaintained -> check the numbers/links in the header of: http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/

So from a user point of view - what would you appreciate more - a ton of packages, which are mostly broken,
filled with bugs like a can of worms and have security issues and stuff like that. Or less packages,
which are stable, working and maintained?
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby wilcal » Mar 26th, '14, 22:13

doktor5000 wrote:So from a user point of view - what would you appreciate more - a ton of packages, which are mostly broken,
filled with bugs like a can of worms and have security issues and stuff like that. Or less packages,
which are stable, working and maintained?

What I would hope here is that Lightworks creates a good enough RPM that we would just plug
it into our repo and it plays. They are really focused right now on Fedora/Ubuntu and should the
Fedora thing work out, and it plugs and plays into Mageia then it's worth maybe doing.
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby doktor5000 » Mar 26th, '14, 22:47

Feel free to ping me here again if they got some Fedora package ready, which does not require registration - you are currently referring to the lower links from http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=206 right?
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Re: Lightworks on Mageia anyone?

Postby wilcal » Mar 26th, '14, 22:53

doktor5000 wrote:Feel free to ping me here again if they got some Fedora package ready, which does not require registration - you are currently referring to the lower links from http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=206 right?

Yep, that's the same one I got here. I've got it running on Mint 16 in M4/Vbox.
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